2012 Car Launches & Pictures

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by Suomileijona » 21 Feb 2012, 07:04

Ferrari is the ugliest of all! :p :p :lol:

I also hope that it is faster than FFFFerrari! :p :p

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by iceman1 » 21 Feb 2012, 08:19

HQ Photos of the new Mercedes F1 W03:

http://www.f1zone.net/news/gallery/2012 ... as-f1-w03/

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by tderias » 21 Feb 2012, 10:59

It's interesting that even after seeing what other teams have done, Mercedes have also gone for the stepped front wing.

According to Rosberg, its the fastest way to go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i099vwFi ... AAAAAAAAAA

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by reppo » 21 Feb 2012, 13:10

Formula 1 | W-Duct System by Mercedes AMG W03

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by reppo » 21 Feb 2012, 13:23

That W03 on the animation looks like Ferrari. Wonder if Ferrari will have w-duct too. Video description:
The new Aerodynamic W- Duct System from the new Mercedes Petronas AMG W03 by a Spanish engineer developed on a Ferrari
This video explains the advantages of the W-Duct / Schacht system.
It takes advantages in curves and straight ahead.
Original w-duct page:
http://www.caranddriverthef1.com/formul ... automatico

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by KevC » 21 Feb 2012, 13:35

Possibly the new HRT

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Post by iceman1 » 21 Feb 2012, 13:41

reppo wrote:That W03 on the animation looks like Ferrari. Wonder if Ferrari will have w-duct too. Video description:
The new Aerodynamic W- Duct System from the new Mercedes Petronas AMG W03 by a Spanish engineer developed on a Ferrari
This video explains the advantages of the W-Duct / Schacht system.
It takes advantages in curves and straight ahead.
Original w-duct page:
http://www.caranddriverthef1.com/formul ... automatico
Very interesting idea. The article mentioned that it'll be hard to integrate that idea in the stepped nose cars. While, it'll be easier for Mclaren or even Red Bull to adopt it because the team have a "big" hole in the front.

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by Suomileijona » 21 Feb 2012, 17:07

Many thanks for the info, guys! :)

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Post by reppo » 24 Feb 2012, 16:33

Interesting.
http://www.f1zone.net/news/mercedes-hid ... ept/12509/
And according to Auto Motor und Sport, the concept differs to the banned double diffuser because the air is channelled through holes at the rear of the engine cover.

The concept, despite complying with the FIA’s blown diffuser clampdown, also reportedly involves the clever redirection of exhaust gases.
Auto Motor und Sport photo:
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Looks looks like they can easily change exhaust exit to redirect gases in or out of the engine cover. Wonder if FIA bans this ''hmm''
Edit: type fixed

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by reppo » 24 Feb 2012, 17:55

If I understand correctly FIA is banning all means of using exhaust gases to improve aerodynamics. Bad news for Mercedes?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97662
FIA to eliminate potential for F1 exhaust blowing by closing off ECU loophole
By Edd Straw and Jonathan Noble Thursday, February 23rd 2012, 20:11 GMT

The FIA is to close off a loophole in Formula 1's new engine mapping regulations as part of a fresh clampdown on exhaust blowing, AUTOSPORT can reveal.

As teams continue to push the limits of the exhaust regulations, sources have revealed that the FIA has been alerted about a way in which teams could get around the stricter engine mapping limits laid down for this year.

Motor racing's governing body has been on a crusade to eradicate any form of exhaust blowing that is primarily aimed at producing an aerodynamic benefit.

As well as agreeing with teams on technical regulations that forced the now-standard periscope exhaust designs, AUTOSPORT revealed in October that the FIA was also imposing strict limits on engine mapping programmes to prevent the continued off-throttle blowing of them.

Although that move went some way to resolving the issue, sources have revealed that the FIA has now been tipped off by one engine maker that there remains the possibility in the current mapping configurations to get around those new limits.

AUTOSPORT understands that the issue relates to the extreme possibility of a team trying to make use of a bigger throttle opening than is allowed, to help increase the flow of exhaust gases by inducing a misfire.

Sources have confirmed that the FIA has worked with the manufacturer involved to cut off this potential avenue of development. An updated version of the software for F1's Standard ECU - which controls the engine maps - will be released before the season-opening Australian Grand Prix.

The FIA does not suspect that any team was making use of this loophole at the present time, although such an action could not have been ruled out if outfits had found out about it later in the campaign.

Williams chief operations engineer Mark Gillan said he remained confident that the FIA had a handle on the exhaust regulations for 2012 - and that the closing of such loopholes would be part and parcel of the build-up to the new season.

"The engine mapping technical directives, which have now been out for a few months, are very clear," said Gillan, when asked by AUTOSPORT about the situation during Barcelona testing.

"How you direct the exhausts is clear as well. As we can see down the pitlane, there are various options and we are investigating all of those options to see what benefit we can get.

"There's definitely performance to be had, but it's nowhere near the performance levels that we had last year. From our side, we have a good idea of the boundaries. There are a few minor technical directives coming out in terms of what is acceptable and what is not, but they are minor compared to the ones that came out in the tail end of last season."

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by phil1993 » 03 Mar 2012, 16:30

Omnicourse mock-up. Please be real.

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by reppo » 03 Mar 2012, 18:07

phil1993 wrote:Omnicourse mock-up. Please be real.
They should by now have more than a mock-up if they are going to do a filming run on Monday, as I saw somewhere.

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by donald29 » 03 Mar 2012, 22:19

At first glance I thought you were posting a pic of an Arrows from 2000-02!

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by KevC » 03 Mar 2012, 23:36

The white car posted a few days ago was on the HRT website and didn't look anything like that one.

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Re: 2012 Car Launches & Pictures

Post by phil1993 » 04 Mar 2012, 09:30

The HRT garage. No jokes please

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