2011 Formula 1 Airtel Grand Prix of India

[mikhailv]

Sorry but the track needs to take action about that kerb. They shouldnt do that to a car, he wasn't even off the track. He had half the car fully on the track. The track should pay for ferraris repairs.

Lol. Its a design flaw on the track. Kerbs at Catalunya for example are much larger and dont do that damage to the car.

Cant stand massa like. Waste of space, but its principle. If it happened to lewis you'd be crying your eyes out Joost blaming every man and his dog.

[phil1993]

That's how kerbs should be. They shouldn't punish the first mistake and it didn't. Massa has done that all weekend and it probably damaged the car every time he did it. Lucky for him it was at the end of Q3 and not the next time he does it, ie tomorrow.

[iceman1]

Grid: Vettel, Webber, Alonso, Button, Hamilton, Massa, Rosberg, Sutil, Buemi, Alguersuari

Hamilton and Massa into the first corner

[JoostLamers]

Sorry but the track needs to take action about that kerb. They shouldnt do that to a car, he wasn't even off the track. He had half the car fully on the track. The track should pay for ferraris repairs.

Lol. Its a design flaw on the track. Kerbs at Catalunya for example are much larger and dont do that damage to the car.

Cant stand massa like. Waste of space, but its principle. If it happened to lewis you'd be crying your eyes out Joost blaming every man and his dog.

[Mar]

Nico is telling that he was given the yellow flags when he had already passed Massa's accident area, but not before.

[mikhailv]

That's how kerbs should be. They shouldn't punish the first mistake and it didn't. Massa has done that all weekend and it probably damaged the car every time he did it. Lucky for him it was at the end of Q3 and not the next time he does it, ie tomorrow.

I agree they should punish, but why dont other circuits kerbs destroy suspensions this year? Many many raised kerbs, Catalunya Chicaneas I elluded to,the super slow mo's show the wheel bouncing like bloody hell, every lap. No suspension snapping.

Then again, with the plain bias and the whinging when its your driver (not you specifically phil) and the contradiction, I expect nothing less from people.

[phil1993]

New record - most poles in a season (16, Red Bull, 2011)

[phil1993]

That's how kerbs should be. They shouldn't punish the first mistake and it didn't. Massa has done that all weekend and it probably damaged the car every time he did it. Lucky for him it was at the end of Q3 and not the next time he does it, ie tomorrow.

I agree they should punish, but why dont other circuits kerbs destroy suspensions this year? Many many raised kerbs, Catalunya Chicaneas I elluded to,the super slow mo's show the wheel bouncing like bloody hell, every lap. No suspension snapping.

Then again, with the plain bias and the whinging when its your driver (not you specifically phil) and the contradiction, I expect nothing less from people.

Catalunya's chicanes are taken at a slower speed, so there's a softer ride. And I'm convinced the car was damaged from that flexi-wing yesterday and the fact Massa's been off track so many times. Its a high kerb, but its a deterrent. You don't take that much kerb out of the corner and Massa paid the price.

[JoostLamers]

I'd blame the suspension/driver, not the track, track is the same for everyone. Stop whining about the kerbs.

[François]

That's how kerbs should be. They shouldn't punish the first mistake and it didn't. Massa has done that all weekend and it probably damaged the car every time he did it. Lucky for him it was at the end of Q3 and not the next time he does it, ie tomorrow.

Oh, actually I think he's more than capable of breaking it again tomorrow.

But sure, go beyond the track's limits and then say it's flawed... reminds me of Petrov's malaysian flight: run wide on the grass, don't slow down and then make a fuss about a bump being there.

[iceman1]

New record - most poles in a season (16, Red Bull, 2011)

For the drivers: Mansell 14 poles the record, Vettel, Prost and Senna 13.

[phil1993]

Kerbs are hard though, remember DC in Sepang a few years back?

[mikhailv]

I'd blame the suspension/driver, not the track, track is the same for everyone. Stop whining about the kerbs.

Correct, but you always whinge if its against lewis whether its right or not. You fall into this category;



And for the record, im pulling everyones leg.

Its massa. If he could he'd have all 4 wheels off the track and be towed with a rope by Alonso (only to then crash into lewis). He was too over aggressive on the kerbs and the speed (what, 140mph?) over essentially is a 6 inch high, 12 inch long brick, suspensions cant take that. Look at lewis in Monza 2010, slight impact ruined his suspension. Massa's use of the kerbs was violent, and at a violent speed its a recipe for disaster.

If he took that kerb with the flexing,sorry, trampolining wing, it wouldve gone under the car and the mobile chicane would become a mobile boeing 747.

Horner did no favours regarding 'not supplying' Toro Rosso. Massive jump in performance but.... they arent 'allowed' to supply another team. bulls** comes to mind. And Im still saying that there has to be something little, minute detail on webbers car to vettels. Though, im surprised how close webber was today.

Good lap from lewis. Shame he will be 5th. I worry about lewis if he isnt in the top 3. This year he's become contact prone and... well..... Massa would be next to him. And a potential penalty for jense? Otherwise, was a boring qualifying to end what effectivly has been a one horse boring championship. Hope for a better year next year, even though I wont be watching. Ill just read on autosport, miss the races anyway due to working.

[phil1993]

Yeah, gonna have to catch 10 races online next year Still, might go to some of them if Icy gets his way

[Mar]

Auto Motor und Sport gave yesterday the predictions for best lap in qualifying each one of the teams had from their simulators. Some of them are predicted pole position times and some the predicted times they expected for their own cars (eigene Bestzeit). It's pretty interesting to compare it with what really happened:


http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 74354.html

Ferrari's simulator is really bad