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JoostLamers wrote:Yeah, we're all the same, when the rules are in our advantage we use them to strengthen our arguments, and vica versa. But rules are rules, and Massa should have been handed a penalty for this. Cause he breaks the rules, simple.

shailf1 wrote:

alex1369 wrote:

JoostLamers wrote:Yeah, we're all the same, when the rules are in our advantage we use them to strengthen our arguments, and vica versa. But rules are rules, and Massa should have been handed a penalty for this. Cause he breaks the rules, simple.

thats what im talking about, give massa the penalty, the whole world saw it, schumi gets penalty for overtaking is bull, pepole want to see overtakings, and schumi had the chance and took it, but to give him then a 20sec penalty is bull, they should just dropped him behind alonso in results and all would be fine, but noo Damon is in charge

isnt the penalty for crossing the line and not touching the line. And dont ssume FIA have noting to do all the race. I am sure they have seen the massa onboard footage and saw that it was ok.

phil1993 wrote:In my opinion there were quite a few contentious decisions this weekend:

1) Felipe Massa blocking Jenson Button during Q3
- From Button's onboard it seemed pretty obvious that he was blocked by Massa. A blocking usually results in a 5 place penalty but Massa received nothing. What we can't see however is what was in front of Massa and whether he had backed off to get more space. Either way, he was pretty dozy when it came to getting out of Button's way.
Verdict - It was a block but it probably didn't affect Button's grid position

2) Fernando Alonso overtaking Karun Chandhok under yellow flags
- Alonso was behind Chandhok when Hulkenberg crashed. As Hulk was crashing, Karun backed off and Alonso went past.
Verdict - Alonso probably did the right thing to avoid another crash

3) Felipe Massa running the yellow line on the pit exit
- The rules state that "Any line painted on the track at the pit exit for the purpose of separating cars leaving the pits from those on the track must not be crossed by any part of a car leaving the pits.". Therefore he broke the rules and a drive through penalty was warranted, even IF he didn't gain anything from it
Verdict - Rules are rules, Massa ran over the line

4) Rubens Barrichello throwing his steering wheel out of the cockpit
- "30.5 A driver who abandons a car must leave it in neutral or with the clutch disengaged, with the KERS shut down and with the steering wheel in place.". Rubens also just threw the wheel out of the cockpit and it was quite dangerous. He claimed he was scared and in a hurry - granted, the cars are going quick at that point but he could have thrown it to the left rather than to the right
Verdict - A fine for breaking rule 30.5 and possibly a reprimand

5) Michael Schumacher passing Fernando Alonso on the last lap
- On reflection, the stewards were right. Rule 40.13 is clear and Schumacher broke it. However, the race director misinformed the teams & drivers by showing green flags and green lights. The new rule regarding the SC line didn't help
Verdict - Rule 40.13 was broken, but swapping them around would have been a more sensible idea...

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phil1993 wrote:Really? If you watch the onboard with Teflonso you'll see that Karun backed off and Alonso went through, lucky that neither of them hit Hulk.

+ of course, Trulli's move was stupid.

Zack wrote:

Spoiler:

Teflonso?

Spoiler:

Yeah, Phil, his name is Lucky Lonso

cformula1 wrote:Utterly rubbish stewards decision.

I've always thought that a green light means 'go'.
Clever interpretation (as per usual) of the rules by Ross though

JoostLamers wrote:Another fact after the Monaco GP:
- First double point finish for the Fifi's

They're a solid midfield team and they'll only get better.

phil1993 wrote:Well there's the reason why Hulkenberg crashed

Mitsuro Sano wrote:But why did he start from the back of the grid first?