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2010 Monaco Grand Prix
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Yup all the verdicts are true !!!!!!!!.But i think stewards in Monaco had only one penalty and they forgot to give it to any one and at the end of the day they saw schumi and they handed him the penaltyZack wrote:6. Brainless attack by Trulli on Karun Chandhok.phil1993 wrote:In my opinion there were quite a few contentious decisions this weekend:
1) Felipe Massa blocking Jenson Button during Q3
- From Button's onboard it seemed pretty obvious that he was blocked by Massa. A blocking usually results in a 5 place penalty but Massa received nothing. What we can't see however is what was in front of Massa and whether he had backed off to get more space. Either way, he was pretty dozy when it came to getting out of Button's way.
Verdict - It was a block but it probably didn't affect Button's grid position
2) Fernando Alonso overtaking Karun Chandhok under yellow flags
- Alonso was behind Chandhok when Hulkenberg crashed. As Hulk was crashing, Karun backed off and Alonso went past.
Verdict - Alonso probably did the right thing to avoid another crash
3) Felipe Massa running the yellow line on the pit exit
- The rules state that "Any line painted on the track at the pit exit for the purpose of separating cars leaving the pits from those on the track must not be crossed by any part of a car leaving the pits.". Therefore he broke the rules and a drive through penalty was warranted, even IF he didn't gain anything from it
Verdict - Rules are rules, Massa ran over the line
4) Rubens Barrichello throwing his steering wheel out of the cockpit
- "30.5 A driver who abandons a car must leave it in neutral or with the clutch disengaged, with the KERS shut down and with the steering wheel in place.". Rubens also just threw the wheel out of the cockpit and it was quite dangerous. He claimed he was scared and in a hurry - granted, the cars are going quick at that point but he could have thrown it to the left rather than to the right
Verdict - A fine for breaking rule 30.5 and possibly a reprimand
5) Michael Schumacher passing Fernando Alonso on the last lap
- On reflection, the stewards were right. Rule 40.13 is clear and Schumacher broke it. However, the race director misinformed the teams & drivers by showing green flags and green lights. The new rule regarding the SC line didn't help
Verdict - Rule 40.13 was broken, but swapping them around would have been a more sensible idea...
N O T H I N G
Btw ....above 2nd instance verdict sounds very unreasonable
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Was hoping Hamilton's engineer was going to shout, 'You're the one paid millions to deal with this s***, now wind your f**k**g neck in'
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Paul Gutjahr, one of the 4 race stewards in monaco said that Barrichello didn't get a penalty because the stewards were so busy discussing about the Schumacher - Alonso incident. So they forgot that Barrichello threw his steering wheel out of the car.
What a joke
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Barrichello threw his steering wheel out of the car not due to frustration, but because he was afraid and wanted to get out of the car as soon as possible because the car was facing the wrong way and it was on fire.
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I'm really wondering why there's all this questioning of Schumacher's actions. We've had races end under these conditions before (most recently Australia 2009) and it seemed clear to everyone then that the cars must stay in formation across the line, even though the safetycar has pitted. The white line in question is only for the driver to re-accelerate back to racing speeds after the safetycar comes in. Even when the safetycar comes in and the race is still continuing, the drivers may not overtake until they have crossed the start/finish line. Schumacher violated the rules and was penalized accordingly. (I am a HUGE Schumi fan by the way).
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The safety car line only came in this year though. They can overtake once they've passed it, as seen in China this year with Hamilton and Webber.
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thats ridiculous (if true) . there was a long gap between the 2 incidents , so were the stewards sleeping between the 2 incidents ?Eric_Cartman wrote:Paul Gutjahr, one of the 4 race stewards in monaco said that Barrichello didn't get a penalty because the stewards were so busy discussing about the Schumacher - Alonso incident. So they forgot that Barrichello threw his steering wheel out of the car.
What a joke
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Don't want to waste my energy ..refer thread earlier pagesFerrariman60 wrote:I'm really wondering why there's all this questioning of Schumacher's actions. We've had races end under these conditions before (most recently Australia 2009) and it seemed clear to everyone then that the cars must stay in formation across the line, even though the safetycar has pitted. The white line in question is only for the driver to re-accelerate back to racing speeds after the safetycar comes in. Even when the safetycar comes in and the race is still continuing, the drivers may not overtake until they have crossed the start/finish line. Schumacher violated the rules and was penalized accordingly. (I am a HUGE Schumi fan by the way).
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Red Bull were found by McLaren to have a slightly contentious part to their diffuser, so RBR modified their diffuser for Monaco and they went even faster
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I was gonna say, why all the fuss about this decision? The rules were pretty clear. Admittedly it's a stupid rule. If they're going to contrive a grandstand finish, they should have made it clear what they wanted first, but it's still in the rules, and it's still Ross Brawn's stupid fault for telling Schumi to go for it.Ferrariman60 wrote:I'm really wondering why there's all this questioning of Schumacher's actions. We've had races end under these conditions before (most recently Australia 2009) and it seemed clear to everyone then that the cars must stay in formation across the line, even though the safetycar has pitted. The white line in question is only for the driver to re-accelerate back to racing speeds after the safetycar comes in. Even when the safetycar comes in and the race is still continuing, the drivers may not overtake until they have crossed the start/finish line. Schumacher violated the rules and was penalized accordingly. (I am a HUGE Schumi fan by the way).
Also, the Alonso-Chandhok yellow flag situation, I did wonder whether Alonso was going to get a penalty at first, but in real time, he had a) so little time to note the yellow flags and b) Chandhok was standing on his brakes. Trulli attacking Chandhok was idiotic, but that happens all the time. Maybe it should be a grid penalty or something, but it won't make much difference, will it?
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No, Ross Brawn isn't stupid. I guess you would have called him clever/smart if only Damon Hill wasn't in steward's room. Stewards choose regulation to succeed in their intention.TwistedArmco wrote:I was gonna say, why all the fuss about this decision? The rules were pretty clear. Admittedly it's a stupid rule. If they're going to contrive a grandstand finish, they should have made it clear what they wanted first, but it's still in the rules, and it's still Ross Brawn's stupid fault for telling Schumi to go for it.Ferrariman60 wrote:I'm really wondering why there's all this questioning of Schumacher's actions. We've had races end under these conditions before (most recently Australia 2009) and it seemed clear to everyone then that the cars must stay in formation across the line, even though the safetycar has pitted. The white line in question is only for the driver to re-accelerate back to racing speeds after the safetycar comes in. Even when the safetycar comes in and the race is still continuing, the drivers may not overtake until they have crossed the start/finish line. Schumacher violated the rules and was penalized accordingly. (I am a HUGE Schumi fan by the way).
Also, the Alonso-Chandhok yellow flag situation, I did wonder whether Alonso was going to get a penalty at first, but in real time, he had a) so little time to note the yellow flags and b) Chandhok was standing on his brakes. Trulli attacking Chandhok was idiotic, but that happens all the time. Maybe it should be a grid penalty or something, but it won't make much difference, will it?
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I would say that the move was illegal but the rules were a bit obscure. It wasn't as bad as Spa 2008 in terms of vague rules but even so, Michael paid the penalty for a move which was illegal, but contradicted the green flags shown
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Someone picked up on this as it happened on RTL
Niki Lauda apologised personally to Robert Kubica in Monaco last weekend.
Former triple world champion Lauda, whose straight-talking assessments are still heard at every grand prix, referred to the Renault driver live on German television as “der Polack” (the Polack).
Polack is a derogatory reference to a Polish person, and even more offensive within Germany given the 1939 Nazi invasion that marked the start of World War II.
Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport said officials of the German TV station RTL demanded that Lauda, 60, apologise.
“I have to say to Robert that it was meant in a nice way,” said the Austrian. “I was just happy that he drove his car onto the front row.”
Lauda reportedly waited for 15 minutes at the Renault motor home on Sunday morning and did apologise publicly to the 25-year-old.