2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

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Who will win the British Grand Prix?

Sebastian Vettel
5
19%
Fernando Alonso
6
23%
Kimi Raikkonen
4
15%
Lewis Hamilton
4
15%
Mark Webber
4
15%
Nico Rosberg
2
8%
Felipe Massa
1
4%
Paul Di Resta
0
No votes
Romain Grosjean
0
No votes
Jenson Button
0
No votes
Other
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 26

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2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

Post by Ferrari92 » 17 Jun 2013, 14:40

2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix
Round 8 of 19
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Circuit map:
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Circuit info:
Race Date: 30 Jun 2013
First Grand Prix: 1950
Number of Laps: 52
Circuit Length: 5.891 km
Race Distance: 306.198 km
Lap Record: 1:34.661 - K Raikkonen (2012)

2012 Result:
1) Mark Webber (Red Bull)
2) Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
3) Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull)
4) Felipe Massa (Ferrari)
5) Kimi Räikkönen (Lotus)
6) Romain Grosjean (Lotus)
7) Michael Schumacher (Mercedes)
8) Lewis Hamilton (McLaren)
9) Bruno Senna (Williams)
10) Jenson Button (McLaren)

Past Winners:
2012 Mark Webber (Red Bull)
2011 Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
2010 Mark Webber (Red Bull)

Past Pole Sitters:
2012 Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
2011 Mark Webber (Red Bull)
2010 Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull)

Timetable (GMT):
Fri 28 June 2013
Practice 1 09:00 - 10:30
Practice 2 13:00 - 14:30

Sat 29 June 2013
Practice 3 09:00 - 10:00
Qualifying 12:00

Sun 30 June 2013
Race 12:00

Tyres:
Prime - Hard (Orange)
Option - Medium (White)
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Jenson Button (2011)

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

Post by kals » 17 Jun 2013, 15:21

I see a Vettel win.

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Post by mikhailv » 17 Jun 2013, 15:25

Hoping for a Webber or Alonso win.

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

Post by donald29 » 17 Jun 2013, 16:46

Only 3 races between now and the summer break. Crazy, especially when you think how packed July was last year with 3 races in 4 weeks. The lack of New Jersey or Valencia has left an annoying hole in the calendar.

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Post by mikhailv » 17 Jun 2013, 17:10

This year seems really poor to be honest. The championship seems...... how do you put it, it just feels abit soulless. The gaps between the races are too long Donald, and for me theres not enough excitement. last year was very unique, you didnt know who was going to pull it out the bag, it was all so close. This year is just so boring, none of the races this year have been exciting even when Alonso won. yeah im glad he won, but it was boring racing, I dont feel any anticipation. It just feels..... I cant put my finger on it. I mean, Vettel has been flawless in his driving, I dare say just about all the top 6 have been near on flawless with just one or two mistakes this season. There seems to be a gap between the top cars consistently. Theres no title fight IMO this year. It just seems really flat.

Now Pirelli are opting to just bring hard compound tyres to every race and that just exacerbates the problem. Infact, I think I just have a big problem with Formula 1 as a whole now. Its boring with the artificiality, but its even more boring without it. I hate to say it, but I wish there was a spec series akin to F1. This year Im finding British Touring Cars 100% more entertaining and better. Last year was rubbish from Spa onwards; When pirelli just brought harder compounds to stop the criticism of wearing tyres.

I wish to god, Pirelli just made a Soft tyre and a hard tyre, thats it for the whole season. No deciding who to favour a few races before. They shouldve stated what tyres for each race at the start of the year.

As boring as it was, they should go back to 2005; one tyre compound, one set for the race, and just go. Admitted the fastest car wins as always and it never gave good racing but at least its not as manufactured. Rant over.

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Post by phil1993 » 17 Jun 2013, 18:39

But then one tyre compound favoured Michelin etc etc. The 2000-04 era favoured Ferrari because of the Bridgestone ties etc etc

It's never going to be a perfect formula.

Last year wasn't rubbish from Spa onwards. Abu Dhabi, Austin and Brazil were awesome. There is a spec series akin to F1. It's called GP2 or IndyCar :p

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

Post by F1EA » 18 Jun 2013, 03:54

Pirelli will save face. Hard compounds.

If F1 wants exciting races, then Pirelli has to test; they showed initiative, and look at the mess... so Pirelli is saving their bussiness. On top of that F1 goes and talk to other tire people.....

Yet another failed F1 venture, thanks to trying to please too many commercial interests at the same time.

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

Post by Joey Zyla » 18 Jun 2013, 08:18

I want real racing. The kind of racing we had in 2001.

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Post by mikhailv » 18 Jun 2013, 09:12

phil1993 wrote:But then one tyre compound favoured Michelin etc etc. The 2000-04 era favoured Ferrari because of the Bridgestone ties etc etc

It's never going to be a perfect formula.

Last year wasn't rubbish from Spa onwards. Abu Dhabi, Austin and Brazil were awesome. There is a spec series akin to F1. It's called GP2 or IndyCar :p
We aren't in a tyre war so its a moot point point. A single tyre, single compound, no tyre change by one supplier. Job done. Second half of Last year was rubbish, Abu Dhabi wasn't that good except for crashes. Austin was only good for Lewis on Vettel but again, the conservative tyre choice made a dull race on a fantastic track, Brazil was only good because of water. The tyres were too conservative for the 2nd half of the season, it went predictable and boring, and thats what Pirelli are doing now. Changing it to stop the whinging.

They should determine which compounds are at which races at the start of the season to stop what Pirelli did last year; change the game to stop the whinging.

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 18 Jun 2013, 09:32

I thought Austin was awesome personally.

But then you could say how much Bridgestone 07 > 10 favoured one team...

You can't just have two compounds of tyre. You'd have to make two hard ones if that was the case because two soft ones would fall apart at circuits such as Sepang.

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

Post by mikhailv » 18 Jun 2013, 12:58

No two compounds, just a single one that lasts the whole race, if you have to take care of it at the end, so be it. One tyre, no pit stops, job done. Though to me, that would also require ridding the complete reliance on aero. Oh well, it is what it is.

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Post by KevC » 18 Jun 2013, 14:47

I'll be there friday :D Ticket arrived yesterday.

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Post by mikhailv » 18 Jun 2013, 17:06

Kevin Clark wrote:I'll be there friday :D Ticket arrived yesterday.
I hope its good weather for you. Would be hugely depressing if its raining and the teams do the usual installation lap, wait an hour, do a couple of laps then park up not bothering.

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Post by KevC » 18 Jun 2013, 18:58

Should be ok. Even in the heavy rain last year they seemed to do a reasonable number of laps. Also GP2/3 and Porsche Cup so hopefully there's plenty to see. Taking a mate who's never been before so I'd like to see some dry running for his sake.

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 23 Jun 2013, 09:19

So, anyone got a spare hotel room floor for me? :lol:

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