mileso wrote:Yes it is all clear now! Lotus is in a conspiracy to keep one of their cars from winning! Brilliant strategy.
You do understand we are comparing a driver with 16 starts to a driver with 164 starts? And for all his "crashing" is only 22 points behind Kimi?
I understand there is no arguing with die-hard Kimi followers, so I will just have to live with your goofy prejudices.
Maybe I'm goofy, but you might also need to learn how to read.
Could you please point out where I've written Lotus is conspiring to keep one of their cars from winning?
I'm waiting, tick, tack, tick, tack, tick....
Oh, I do understand Grosjean has 16 F1 starts for 164 of Räikkönen but, even being goofy, I also understand that the guy is 26 and has a huge racing experience. I'm so goofy, that I have kept an eye on him since some time before his first F1 stint in 2009.
BTW, by your theory of Räikkönen being too old to drive F1, being just 32, Grosjean should be winning the championship this year. Next year, he will already be past his due date. He's going to be 27!!!!!
So, we do agree that he is behind Kimi. I thought he was leading him by at least 100 points.
And now back to the point and my goofyness. Let's start with some of the things I wrote yesterday and that you seemed to over-read, since they didn't fit into your idea of what I was talking about:
Mar wrote:
I have a rant against Lotus and their biased PR, but I better shut up
Did you miss the part where I specified "PR"?
Another one:
Mar wrote:
...
I have always defended the guy. I think he is very fast, but I simply don't see in the timings some of the things he's supposed to be doing.
So yes, as you say, I'm just a die-hard Kimi fan with goofy prejudices.
The thing is that even with my goofy prejudices and my die-hard Kimism, which should blind me and let me notice just what happens to Räikkönen and nothing else, I was able to notice during the race that, while Grosjean's direct rivals where trapped in Michael Schumacher's traffic, he was mostly running in clean air and gaining back the time he had lost changing the nose.
Just for your information. Considering a lap in traffic those started less than two seconds from the car in front and according to the F1 timing application, Räikkönen had 34 laps in traffic out of the race 52 and Grosjean 18. And I'm so goofy, that I could notice it live during the race. Also just for your information, it's true that Grosjean had to pass 5 backmarkers (Pic, Kar, Dlr, Glo, and Kov), but in all cases, he passed them in the same lap he got close to them and was faster than Schumacher (who was holding Grosjean's rivals) in every single one of them. And in my goofyness, I was able to notice it during the race.
Maybe I'm stupid, but I can understand that you have to take into consideration how many pits every body has done and how many are there left to understand which is the real track position of each driver at each moment... and I always understood that Grosjean's real track position, once everybody did their pitstops was much higher than some people seems to understand. As a matter of fact, when the first cycle of pits is done, and all top drivers are on sync, Grosjean is 8th.
I have never said the guy did badly, even if looking closely to it, he had one of those weekends where other drivers would be rubbished non-stop:
- he had a dangerous off on the wet on Friday, while pushing too hard on the wet track trying to prove I don't know why
- almost crashed with his teammate and sent him off-track in Q1. How much of it is Pérez's fault can be discussed, but you can't move to where there is another car.
- should be jumping in joy and kissing Whiting for the red flag in Q2 because, at the time, he was out of Q3, being slower than his teammate, who had a broken car.
- was given the second chance the red flag meant, he managed to improve his time but binned it pushing when he was mathematically classified for Q3 (eight cars had already seen the checkered flag with worse times than his by then).
- is involved in another first lap incident, which could have cost him the race. He should go and hug Schumacher for holding everybody and Hembery for bringing Bridgestones instead of Pirellis to the race (as proven by the fact that the times continuously improved as the drivers burnt fuel, up to the extent that Räikkönen's fastest lap and Grosjean's best lap take place in lap 50).
- is very fast on clean air, as his teammate, but on real traffic (the one of more or less the same speed), he has the same difficulties/easiness to pass cars as his teammate.
So, nope, I try to, but I don't see where he was impressive this weekend.