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Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 14:35
by mikhailv
He shouldnt get a penalty. Just like he shouldnt have got a penalty in valencia.

Just a racing incident. maldanado started to slide and because sergio was on the outside he slid into him. If sergio wasnt on the outside, he wouldve escaped and took maldanado on his inside. So its a racing incident.

Same with valencia, upon corner entry both cars were level, lewis was harsh but fair and put him off the track (which is legal and what Rosberg did which i thought was wrong), He hugged the white line, didnt account for maldanado coming back on track instead of going over the sleeping policemen and again collided.

its just racing imo. collisions like Malda on Perez and lewis in spa deserve penalties. I dont even think id give lewis a penalty for monaco 2011 really. Cars hit each other and thats it.

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 14:40
by donald29
Looking at it again I think this one was more of a racing incident than anyone's fault, Perez's reaction was down to Maldonado's incidents...

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 14:45
by Mar
It would be funny to take Pérez and Maldonado and lock them together in a room with a microphone (to hear from outside what they say). The discussion could be pretty funny :zz:

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 14:46
by mikedc73
Wasn't last year every was saying Hamilton was a menace the year before it was Kamui.

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 14:49
by donald29
Remember the Trulli / Sutil press conference at Abu Dhabi 2009 after their collision in Brazil? Get Perez and Maldonado in the Germany press conference. :lol:

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 14:52
by Mar
mikedc73 wrote:Wasn't last year every was saying Hamilton was a menace the year before it was Kamui.
Maldonado has always had a bad reputation on that matter, way before he was in F1.

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 14:52
by donald29
Even after he won the GP2 title it was 'he's fast but...'.

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 15:00
by iceman1
Pit stop summary – 2012 British Grand Prix

Code: Select all

Webber: SN HN (14) HU (33) 2 
Alonso: HN HN (15) SN (37) 2 
Vettel: SN HN (10) HN (31) 2 
Massa: SN HN (13) HN (35) 2 
Räikkönen: SN HN (13) HN (34) 2 
Grosjean: SN HN (2) HN (26) 2 
Schumacher: SN HN (12) HN (34) 2 
Hamilton: HN SN (21) HN (28) 2 
Senna: SN HN (14) HN (30) 2 
Button: HN SN (16) HN (31) 2 
Kobayashi: HN HN (16) SN (37) 2 
Hülkenberg: HN HN (16) SN (35) 2 
Ricciardo: HN SN (16) HN (29) 2 
Vergne: SN HN (14) HN (32) 2 
Rosberg: HN HN (15) SN (37) 2 
Maldonado: SN HN (11) HN (12) 2 
Kovalainen: SN HN (12) HN (29) 2 
Glock: HN HN (18) SN (38) 2 
Pic: SN HN (13) HN (32) 2 
De La Rosa: HN SN (27)   1 
Kartikeyan: HN HN (16) SN (35) 2 
          
Perez: SN HN (11)   1 NC 
Di Resta: SN HN (1)   1 NC 
Petrov: –     NS 

The first column denotes the tyres the driver started the race on.

S = Soft compound
H = Hard compound
N = New compound
U = Used compound

NC = Not classified
NS = Not started
Time to continue my work at f1arab :wave:

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 15:02
by donald29
Seems Alonso's strategy could have been based on there being rain later in the race...

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 15:15
by eleanor
LOL... what was that Lewis-Jenson animation?

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 15:16
by donald29
Sky did a bit about it being made in the F1 season. Was surprisingly funny, 'here from the 1995 season one of Nigel Mansell's original moustaches.' :lol:

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 15:21
by Edi96
mikhailv wrote:He shouldnt get a penalty. Just like he shouldnt have got a penalty in valencia.

Just a racing incident. maldanado started to slide and because sergio was on the outside he slid into him. If sergio wasnt on the outside, he wouldve escaped and took maldanado on his inside. So its a racing incident.

Same with valencia, upon corner entry both cars were level, lewis was harsh but fair and put him off the track (which is legal and what Rosberg did which i thought was wrong), He hugged the white line, didnt account for maldanado coming back on track instead of going over the sleeping policemen and again collided.

its just racing imo. collisions like Malda on Perez and lewis in spa deserve penalties. I dont even think id give lewis a penalty for monaco 2011 really. Cars hit each other and thats it.
Last year Schumacher did the same mistake as Maldonado today when he crashed into Kobayashi. He got a 10 seconds stop and go-penalty even though it was wet.

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 15:22
by eleanor
donald29 wrote:Sky did a bit about it being made in the F1 season. Was surprisingly funny, 'here from the 1995 season one of Nigel Mansell's original moustaches.' :lol:
yeah it was quite funny...

so the rain Michael was dancing for hit Wimbledon... Federer/Murray match was suspended

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 15:35
by naiego
donald29 wrote:Seems Alonso's strategy could have been based on there being rain later in the race...
You have a point there, perhaps this might be the case. They started with the hard compound that gave more speed and if it rained they wouldn't have to use the soft one.

Re: 2012 Santander British Grand Prix

Posted: 08 Jul 2012, 15:44
by mikhailv
Edi96 wrote:
mikhailv wrote:He shouldnt get a penalty. Just like he shouldnt have got a penalty in valencia.

Just a racing incident. maldanado started to slide and because sergio was on the outside he slid into him. If sergio wasnt on the outside, he wouldve escaped and took maldanado on his inside. So its a racing incident.

Same with valencia, upon corner entry both cars were level, lewis was harsh but fair and put him off the track (which is legal and what Rosberg did which i thought was wrong), He hugged the white line, didnt account for maldanado coming back on track instead of going over the sleeping policemen and again collided.

its just racing imo. collisions like Malda on Perez and lewis in spa deserve penalties. I dont even think id give lewis a penalty for monaco 2011 really. Cars hit each other and thats it.
Last year Schumacher did the same mistake as Maldonado today when he crashed into Kobayashi. He got a 10 seconds stop and go-penalty even though it was wet.
And that was stupid too