All penaltys in 2011 for Hamilton were justified. Today, he didn't deserve a penalty, so he didn't get one. It's as simple as that.JoostLamers wrote:It's nearly the same incident as Vettel vs. Button at the start imo, so that means Lewis will get a penalty...
2011 Japanese Grand Prix
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I don't maintain that all of Lewis's 2011 penalties were deserved.
Time to focus on the RB8 now Mr.Newey, go make him a triple champion.
Time to focus on the RB8 now Mr.Newey, go make him a triple champion.
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- For the record books: Sebastian Vettel is now the youngest two-time world champion, just 24 years and 98 days. That is actually just 39 days older than Fernando Alonso was when he took his first championship in 2005.
- Sebastian Vettel is the 9th driver in history to win back-to-back world championships, after Alberto Ascari (1952-1953), Juan Manuel Fangio (1954-1957), Jack Brabham (1959-1960), Alain Prost (1985-1986) Ayrton Senna (1990-1991), Michael Schumacher (1994-1995, 2000-2004), Mika Häkkinen (1998-1999), Fernando Alonso (2005-2006). Only Fangio and Senna had won championships before winning their back-to-back championships.
- With Vettel securing the championship, it is the first time since Michael Schumacher in 2003 that the title was won in Japan. He is now the 6th driver in history to become world champion Formula One in Suzuka, after Nelso Piquet (1987), Ayrton Senna (1988, 1990, 1991), Alain Prost (1989), Damon Hill (1996), Hakkinen (1998, 1999) and Michael Schumacher (2000, 2003).
- Vettel's second world championship is the ninth world championship won by a German driver. Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel now together have more championships than all Brazilian drivers combined (Nelson Piquet (3), Ayrton Senna (3), Emerson Fittipaldi (2)).
- Michael Schumacher still holds the record for winning the world championship with most races left in the season, with 6 races left in 2002, but securing the title with 4 races left, Sebastian Vettel equals Schumacher's 2004 result. Lest we not forget Mansell however, he clinched the title 5 races before the end in 1992.
- With the championship won, and no one other than Sebastian Vettel being able to lead the championship anymore, he now holds the record for "leading the championship for most races in the season", leading the championship for all 19 races of 2011. The previous record was held by Michael Schumacher, leading the championship all year through the 18 races in 2004. [img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/447x283/sutton/2011/d11jpn1965.jpg[/img]
- With Button's win on Suzuka, McLaren has now won 9 of the 27 Japanese Grand Prix since 1976.
- When Schumacher (42 years, 279 days old) led the race before his last pit stop, he became the old driver to lead a race since Jack Brabham (44 years, 107 days old) led the 1970 British Grand Prix.
- In his tenth Japanese Grand Prix, this is only the fourth time Mark Webber scored points in Japan; third out of nine races in Suzuka.
- Button's victory is McLaren's first win at Suzuka since Raïkkönen's win in 2005.
- Although Force India must be happy to finish, after having a double retirement in the 2008 and 2010 Japanese Grand Prix, they were again unable to score points in Japan.
- With Perez's eight place finish, Sauber has now consecutively scored points in the last six Japanese Grand Prix, counting both Fuji and Suzuka.
- The old record for most driver's championship titles entering a race -9 championships equally across Nelson Piquet, Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna in the 1991 Australian Grand Prix- was already shattered when Michael Schumacher brought his 7 championships into the 2010 Australian Grand Prix, starting that race with 13 championship titles. The 2011 Korean Grand Prix will be started with 15 championship titles across the field, but it will be the first time since the 1991 Australian Grand Prix that 3 double world champions will start a race: Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso and now Sebastian Vettel.
- This is Jenson Button's 12th win, 40th podium finish and 6th fastest lap.
- Fernando Alonso scored his 71st podium finish, slowly creeping up to Ayrton Senna's 80 podium finishes.
- Sebastian Vettel's 27th pole position, means he is now the all-time 7th driver in most pole positions, clearing himself from Mika Häkkinen, with 26 pole positions. His third place finish in Suzuka meant his 33rd podium finish in his young career: finishing on the podium in 42.8% of his races.
- Although Sebastian Vettel can no longer beat the 2004 record of most wins in a season, when Michael Schumacher drove his Ferrari to 13 race wins, he will still be able to equal the record.
- Vettel will no longer be able to beat Alberto Ascari's record of 7 consecutive wins this season.
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Thank you for those statisticsmnmracer wrote:
- For the record books: Sebastian Vettel is now the youngest two-time world champion, just 24 years and 98 days. That is actually just 39 days older than Fernando Alonso was when he took his first championship in 2005.
- Sebastian Vettel is the 9th driver in history to win back-to-back world championships, after Alberto Ascari (1952-1953), Juan Manuel Fangio (1954-1957), Jack Brabham (1959-1960), Alain Prost (1985-1986) Ayrton Senna (1990-1991), Michael Schumacher (1994-1995, 2000-2004), Mika Häkkinen (1998-1999), Fernando Alonso (2005-2006). Only Fangio and Senna had won championships before winning their back-to-back championships.
- With Vettel securing the championship, it is the first time since Michael Schumacher in 2003 that the title was won in Japan. He is now the 6th driver in history to become world champion Formula One in Suzuka, after Nelso Piquet (1987), Ayrton Senna (1988, 1990, 1991), Alain Prost (1989), Damon Hill (1996), Hakkinen (1998, 1999) and Michael Schumacher (2000, 2003).
- Vettel's second world championship is the ninth world championship won by a German driver. Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel now together have more championships than all Brazilian drivers combined (Nelson Piquet (3), Ayrton Senna (3), Emerson Fittipaldi (2)).
- Michael Schumacher still holds the record for winning the world championship with most races left in the season, with 6 races left in 2002, but securing the title with 4 races left, Sebastian Vettel equals Schumacher's 2004 result. Lest we not forget Mansell however, he clinched the title 5 races before the end in 1992.
- With the championship won, and no one other than Sebastian Vettel being able to lead the championship anymore, he now holds the record for "leading the championship for most races in the season", leading the championship for all 19 races of 2011. The previous record was held by Michael Schumacher, leading the championship all year through the 18 races in 2004.
[img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/447x283/sutton/2011/d11jpn1965.jpg[/img]- With Button's win on Suzuka, McLaren has now won 9 of the 27 Japanese Grand Prix since 1976.
- When Schumacher (42 years, 279 days old) led the race before his last pit stop, he became the old driver to lead a race since Jack Brabham (44 years, 107 days old) led the 1970 British Grand Prix.
- In his tenth Japanese Grand Prix, this is only the fourth time Mark Webber scored points in Japan; third out of nine races in Suzuka.
- Button's victory is McLaren's first win at Suzuka since Raïkkönen's win in 2005.
- Although Force India must be happy to finish, after having a double retirement in the 2008 and 2010 Japanese Grand Prix, they were again unable to score points in Japan.
- With Perez's eight place finish, Sauber has now consecutively scored points in the last six Japanese Grand Prix, counting both Fuji and Suzuka.
- The old record for most driver's championship titles entering a race -9 championships equally across Nelson Piquet, Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna in the 1991 Australian Grand Prix- was already shattered when Michael Schumacher brought his 5 championships into the 2010 Australian Grand Prix, starting that race with 11 championship titles. The 2011 Korean Grand Prix will be started with 13 championship titles across the field, but it will be the first time since the 1991 Australian Grand Prix that 3 double world champions will start a race: Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso and now Sebastian Vettel.
- This is Jenson Button's 12th win, 40th podium finish and 6th fastest lap.
- Fernando Alonso scored his 71st podium finish, slowly creeping up to Ayrton Senna's 80 podium finishes.
- Sebastian Vettel's 27th pole position, means he is now the all-time 7th driver in most pole positions, clearing himself from Mika Häkkinen, with 26 pole positions. His third place finish in Suzuka meant his 33rd podium finish in his young career: finishing on the podium in 42.8% of his races.
- Although Sebastian Vettel can no longer beat the 2004 record of most wins in a season, when Michael Schumacher drove his Ferrari to 13 race wins, he will still be able to equal the record.
- Vettel will no longer be able to beat Alberto Ascari's record of 7 consecutive wins this season.
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Nice job, many thanks.mnmracer wrote:
- For the record books: Sebastian Vettel is now the youngest two-time world champion, just 24 years and 98 days. That is actually just 39 days older than Fernando Alonso was when he took his first championship in 2005.
- Sebastian Vettel is the 9th driver in history to win back-to-back world championships, after Alberto Ascari (1952-1953), Juan Manuel Fangio (1954-1957), Jack Brabham (1959-1960), Alain Prost (1985-1986) Ayrton Senna (1990-1991), Michael Schumacher (1994-1995, 2000-2004), Mika Häkkinen (1998-1999), Fernando Alonso (2005-2006). Only Fangio and Senna had won championships before winning their back-to-back championships.
- With Vettel securing the championship, it is the first time since Michael Schumacher in 2003 that the title was won in Japan. He is now the 6th driver in history to become world champion Formula One in Suzuka, after Nelso Piquet (1987), Ayrton Senna (1988, 1990, 1991), Alain Prost (1989), Damon Hill (1996), Hakkinen (1998, 1999) and Michael Schumacher (2000, 2003).
- Vettel's second world championship is the ninth world championship won by a German driver. Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel now together have more championships than all Brazilian drivers combined (Nelson Piquet (3), Ayrton Senna (3), Emerson Fittipaldi (2)).
- Michael Schumacher still holds the record for winning the world championship with most races left in the season, with 6 races left in 2002, but securing the title with 4 races left, Sebastian Vettel equals Schumacher's 2004 result. Lest we not forget Mansell however, he clinched the title 5 races before the end in 1992.
- With the championship won, and no one other than Sebastian Vettel being able to lead the championship anymore, he now holds the record for "leading the championship for most races in the season", leading the championship for all 19 races of 2011. The previous record was held by Michael Schumacher, leading the championship all year through the 18 races in 2004.
[img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/447x283/sutton/2011/d11jpn1965.jpg[/img]- With Button's win on Suzuka, McLaren has now won 9 of the 27 Japanese Grand Prix since 1976.
- When Schumacher (42 years, 279 days old) led the race before his last pit stop, he became the old driver to lead a race since Jack Brabham (44 years, 107 days old) led the 1970 British Grand Prix.
- In his tenth Japanese Grand Prix, this is only the fourth time Mark Webber scored points in Japan; third out of nine races in Suzuka.
- Button's victory is McLaren's first win at Suzuka since Raïkkönen's win in 2005.
- Although Force India must be happy to finish, after having a double retirement in the 2008 and 2010 Japanese Grand Prix, they were again unable to score points in Japan.
- With Perez's eight place finish, Sauber has now consecutively scored points in the last six Japanese Grand Prix, counting both Fuji and Suzuka.
- The old record for most driver's championship titles entering a race -9 championships equally across Nelson Piquet, Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna in the 1991 Australian Grand Prix- was already shattered when Michael Schumacher brought his 5 championships into the 2010 Australian Grand Prix, starting that race with 11 championship titles. The 2011 Korean Grand Prix will be started with 13 championship titles across the field, but it will be the first time since the 1991 Australian Grand Prix that 3 double world champions will start a race: Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso and now Sebastian Vettel.
- This is Jenson Button's 12th win, 40th podium finish and 6th fastest lap.
- Fernando Alonso scored his 71st podium finish, slowly creeping up to Ayrton Senna's 80 podium finishes.
- Sebastian Vettel's 27th pole position, means he is now the all-time 7th driver in most pole positions, clearing himself from Mika Häkkinen, with 26 pole positions. His third place finish in Suzuka meant his 33rd podium finish in his young career: finishing on the podium in 42.8% of his races.
- Although Sebastian Vettel can no longer beat the 2004 record of most wins in a season, when Michael Schumacher drove his Ferrari to 13 race wins, he will still be able to equal the record.
- Vettel will no longer be able to beat Alberto Ascari's record of 7 consecutive wins this season.
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So this means that Hamilton could just push him off the track?phil1993 wrote:
Funny how Massa is behind and Lewis will get the penalty... car behind should decide what to do and Massa chose wrong
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STATS-MAN(mnmracer ) .. u r gr8 ;)
Vettel ~ Schumacher slow down
Vettel WDC 2X
IMO ... unfortunately its kind of spiritual n personal .. Lewis missing peace !! i mean he needs to look in his personal life, get things sorted. Bring more calmness within himself. May be get some personal guru onboard. Its kind of strange, feeling sad for him.
Vettel ~ Schumacher slow down
Vettel WDC 2X
IMO ... unfortunately its kind of spiritual n personal .. Lewis missing peace !! i mean he needs to look in his personal life, get things sorted. Bring more calmness within himself. May be get some personal guru onboard. Its kind of strange, feeling sad for him.
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Amazing Job mnmracer
Button's first win with Mclaren in dry condition
Button's first win with Mclaren in dry condition
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No prizes for guessing who Massa is slating currently...
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What did Felpe Baby say about his incident ? I dont rememeber the beeb showing his interviewphil1993 wrote:No prizes for guessing who Massa is slating currently...
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Reacting to comments that Hamilton had been unable to see Massa coming up behind him, Massa said: "I don't care, to be honest, about what he [Hamilton] said. The only thing I care about is what he did. He was so slow in 130R and he stayed on the right-hand side.
"I was much quicker, so I went to the left-hand side and I braked there. I stayed on my line; he moved his car and touched my car. There's nothing more to say. For what he says, I don't care. I care about what the federation says and what the FIA does.
"They have penalised people for much less this year and this time they didn't do it. It's the second time in a row after the problem in qualifying as well in the last race, and after what happened yesterday. And after many times this year. The FIA needs to take care of that. They are the only ones who can take care of that."
When asked by AUTOSPORT if it would not be better for him to speak face-to-face with Hamilton to sort out the issue, Massa replied: "No. He doesn't learn. As I said before, I don't care. I race against him, against whatever driver in the same way. I don't really care. He has already passed the time to speak, which I tried and he didn't."
Massa did suggest, however, that he may bring the matter up if he has a chance to speak to FIA race director Charlie Whiting.
"Maybe if I see Charlie, I will speak to him. But there's nothing really to say now," he said.
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Thanks phil
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I didn't said!!.
Congrats Vettel for his second world championship.
Congrats Vettel for his second world championship.
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Review of Lewis's season so far from BBC
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Thank you.