British Grand Prix 2011

[Edi96]

Why was Webber in a postion to overtake Vettel? Because the team made a crucial mistake at Vettel's second pit stop. He lost plenty of time when he got stuck behind Hamilton and had to pit earlier than the others to leapfrog him. This compromised Vettel in the last laps and gave Webber the chance to catch up. Vettel was faster in the race and it would have been unfair if Webber was allowed to pass him.

[JoostLamers]

Unfair?!? That is racing!

[sleenster]

Even James Allen thinks that Red Bull are being hypocritical about team orders
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/07/r ... r-do-they/

[JoostLamers]

I think so too

[iceman1]

I talked to Perez on the phone. He was really happy

Are you his manager/friend????

A friend of his best friend

[JoostLamers]

I talked to Perez on the phone. He was really happy

Are you his manager/friend????

A friend of his best friend

You serious?

[mikhailv]

Well last year Ferrari was massacred cause of team orders, unlike Red Bull whom most of the big critics have let slide.
As for Austria 2002, is no diffirent to the above two incidents. The driver in the best position for the world title was given/kept in the lead.

there is a CLEAR difference between the two incidents.

Team orders to catch up or if your leading by the skin of your teeth is understandable. But if your 77 points ahead, you should not be allowed to benefit from team orders. infact, in my opinion, if you have a race in hand IE 25 point lead, you are not allowed to benefit from team orders. If you a more than 50 points away from the lead in the championship, you should not be allowed to use team orders either.

That way, you can use team orders, but not stupidly. If youve got 2 drivers within the 50 points IE Jenson or Lewis, and you have to make the choice to choose which one will give up their position, will make it very interesting. Ive youve got a race in hand, then I dont believe you should benefit from team orders no matter what driver you are.

the team order yesterday had absolutely nothing to do with Austria 2002 and Hockenheim 2010. Those two team orders were arranged because of the championship. Yesterday Red Bull just wanted to secure P2 and P3 and they have the right to that considering the Istanbul incident in 2010. Why should they put 33 points on the line in the last 3 laps? Every other team would do the same in that situation. Just look at Mclaren in Istanbul 2010

You could only compare those team orders if Vettel had been 3rd and the team said to Mark to let him pass...

Well the same could be said that Ferrari last year didn't want to risk both cars challenging each other till the very end.

Put aside all the maths, at the end the team still favoured the one leading the championship with team orders.
It's all the same thing.

Its the same thing in the end, but its just unecessary. I mean, id be pissed if they told massa not to overtake Alonso when he is 80 points ahead. It just aint fair. there needs to be team orders in moderation.

And doesnt it just show Cartman, that redbull dont trust their drivers because vettel will likely crash into another car?

[iceman1]

I talked to Perez on the phone. He was really happy

Are you his manager/friend????

A friend of his best friend

You serious?

Yeah sure dude

[F1Fan88]

While Ferrari assisted Fernando Alonso's title challenge by instructing co-driver Felipe Massa to make way in the German Grand Prix, there were no such team orders for Red Bull, who encouraged the competition between their championship-contending drivers.

"It just comes down to your philosophy of racing and we chose to give both our drivers absolute equality and a fair chance at it," Horner said.

[Fergie1]

Thought i'd share this from after the race. What a legend.

[antyk]

thanks mate

do you think he has been to the stewards after this

[MavF1]

Thanks fergie, they didn't catch that one on TV.
It's a shame that donuts are not allowed in F1, although I always wondered if the engine guys are actually happy about this. I don't know if that much wheelspin stresses out the engine too much....?

[Zack]

Thanks Fergie .. lewis \m/

[tderias]

Thought i'd share this from after the race. What a legend.

Legend indeed

[lealjaime]

I talked to Perez on the phone. He was really happy

Are you his manager/friend????

A friend of his best friend

You serious?

Yeah sure dude

The next time that you speak with him please told him that here in monterrey Mexico i Follow Every Race