2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

2011 Formula One Season.

Who will win the UBS Chinese Grand Prix?

Poll ended at 17 Apr 2011, 07:57

Sebastian Vettel
14
47%
Jenson Button
2
7%
Lewis Hamilton
10
33%
Mark Webber
1
3%
Fernando Alonso
3
10%
Felipe Massa
0
No votes
Nick Heidfeld
0
No votes
Vitaly Petrov
0
No votes
Kamui Kobayashi
0
No votes
Sebastien Buemi
0
No votes
Michael Schumacher
0
No votes
Nico Rosberg
0
No votes
Other
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 30

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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 17 Apr 2011, 13:00

Site link for the driver ratings
http://www.f1zone.net/site/driver-reviews-china/6394/

And wow, that is weird :p

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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by valentino 46 » 17 Apr 2011, 14:10

hehe , that s so weird
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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by sdutt » 17 Apr 2011, 16:06

what was surprising to see was Webber making the softs last that long
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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by zoefrances » 17 Apr 2011, 17:30

great race. good to see nico rosberg finish 5th. webber drove a brilliant race 18th on grid to 3rd.

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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by geewhiz14 » 18 Apr 2011, 07:58

I'm feeling magnanimous, so here's something about Lewis and his Mechanics:

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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by JoostLamers » 18 Apr 2011, 10:42

phil1993 wrote:Wearing rocket red, wooh :D
Wearing it today aswell :D

Good ratings :thumbsup:
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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by JoostLamers » 18 Apr 2011, 11:05

Insane that those RBR mechanics think McLaren did it on purpose, with Button stopping at them.. Insane!
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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by KevC » 18 Apr 2011, 11:30

Any overtaking stats for this race?

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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by SpliT » 18 Apr 2011, 11:39

Overtaking stats:
Spoiler:
P. Lap. Driver on Driver Position

1. 2 Mark Webber Sergio Perez 16
2. 2 Pastor Maldonado Jarno Trulli 19
3. 2 Pastor Maldonado Heikki Kovalainen 18
4. 2 Timo Glock Vitantonio Liuzzi 21
5. 3 Kamui Kobayashi Jaime Alguersuari 10
6. 3 Jerome d'Ambrosio Vitantonio Liuzzi 22
7. 4 Mark Webber Rubens Barrichello 15
8. 6 Vitaly Petrov Jaime Alguersuari 11
9. 8 Sergio Perez Rubens Barrichello 16
10. 9 Nick Heidfeld Sebastien Buemi 13
11. 9 Sergio Perez Mark Webber 15
12. 9 Heikki Kovalainen Pastor Maldonado 18
13. 12 Sergio Perez Sebastien Buemi 11
14. 12 Michael Schumacher Heikki Kovalainen 14
15. 12 Mark Webber Jerome d'Ambrosio 19
16. 12 Mark Webber Timo Glock 18
17. 12 Pastor Maldonado Narain Karthikeyan 21
18. 13 Nico Rosberg Nick Heidfeld 9
19. 13 Paul di Resta Heikki Kovalainen 14
20. 13 Mark Webber Sebastien Buemi 17
21. 14 Sebastian Vettel Lewis Hamilton 2
22. 14 Pastor Maldonado Jerome d'Ambrosio 20
23. 15 Felipe Massa Lewis Hamilton 1
24. 15 Nico Rosberg Vitaly Petrov 5
25. 15 Sebastian Vettel Nick Heidfeld 7
26. 15 Michael Schumacher Rubens Barrichello 11
27. 15 Pastor Maldonado Timo Glock 19
28. 16 Jenson Button Nick Heidfeld 5
29. 16 Felipe Massa Nick Heidfeld 6
30. 16 Lewis Hamilton Sergio Perez 8
31. 16 Lewis Hamilton Nick Heidfeld 7
32. 16 Adrian Sutil Heikki Kovalainen 13
33. 16 Kamui Kobayashi Heikki Kovalainen 14
34. 16 Mark Webber Jarno Trulli 16
35. 17 Sebastian Vettel Vitaly Petrov 2
36. 17 Mark Webber Heikki Kovalainen 13
37. 17 Sebastien Buemi Narain Karthikeyan 20
38. 18 Michael Schumacher Nick Heidfeld 6
39. 18 Fernando Alonso Nick Heidfeld 7
40. 18 Vitaly Petrov Heikki Kovalainen 13
41. 18 Sergio Perez Jarno Trulli 15
42. 19 Sergio Perez Heikki Kovalainen 13
43. 19 Nick Heidfeld Jarno Trulli 15
44. 19 Sebastien Buemi Jerome d'Ambrosio 19
45. 20 Rubens Barrichello Jarno Trulli 15
46. 20 Pastor Maldonado Jarno Trulli 16
47. 21 Sebastien Buemi Heikki Kovalainen 17
48. 23 Timo Glock Narain Karthikeyan 20
49. 25 Fernando Alonso Michael Schumacher 5
50. 26 Jenson Button Paul di Resta 6
51. 27 Lewis Hamilton Paul di Resta 6
52. 28 Nico Rosberg Fernando Alonso 3
53. 28 Mark Webber Rubens Barrichello 14
54. 29 Jenson Button Fernando Alonso 4
55. 29 Michael Schumacher Nick Heidfeld 12
56. 30 Lewis Hamilton Fernando Alonso 5
57. 30 Vitaly Petrov Kamui Kobayashi 9
58. 30 Michael Schumacher Sergio Perez 11
59. 31 Mark Webber Sergio Perez 10
60. 33 Michael Schumacher Vitaly Petrov 6
61. 33 Kamui Kobayashi Adrian Sutil 13
62. 34 Mark Webber Vitaly Petrov 7
63. 34 Fernando Alonso Sergio Perez 9
64. 36 Lewis Hamilton Jenson Button 2
65. 37 Fernando Alonso Vitaly Petrov 8
66. 38 Mark Webber Michael Schumacher 6
67. 38 Rubens Barrichello Heikki Kovalainen 15
68. 38 Sebasten Buemi Jarno Trulli 18
69. 40 Sebastien Buemi Pastor Maldonado 17
70. 42 Lewis Hamilton Nico Rosberg 3
71. 42 Vitaly Petrov Nick Heidfeld 12
72. 44 Lewis Hamilton Felipe Massa 2
73. 44 Timo Glock Vitantonio Liuzzi 22
74. 45 Jenson Button Nico Rosberg 4
75. 45 Mark Webber Fernando Alonso 6
76. 45 Sergio Perez Vitaly Petrov 12
77. 49 Jenson Button Felipe Massa 3
78. 49 Timo Glock Narain Karthikeyan 21
79. 50 Nico Rosberg Felipe Massa 4
80. 51 Mark Webber Felipe Massa 5
81. 51 Vitaly Petrov Kamui Kobayashi 10
82. 52 Lewis Hamilton Sebastian Vettel 1
83. 52 Vitaly Petrov Paul di Resta 9
84. 53 Kamui Kobayashi Paul di Resta 10
85. 54 Mark Webber Nico Rosberg 4
86. 54 Vitantonio Liuzzi Narain Karthikeyan 22
87. 55 Mark Webber Jenson Button 3




P. Driver Over.

1. Mark Webber 15
2. Lewis Hamilton 8
3. Michael Schumacher 6
4. Vitaly Petrov 6
5. Sergio Perez 6
6. Pastor Maldonado 6
7. Jenson Button 5
8. Sebastien Buemi 5
9. Nico Rosberg 4
10. Fernando Alonso 4
11. Kamui Kobayashi 4
12. Timo Glock 4
13. Sebastian Vettel 3
14. Felipe Massa 2
15. Nick Heidfeld 2
16. Rubens Barrichello 2
17. Paul di Resta 1
18. Adrian Sutil 1
19. Heikki Kovalainen 1
20. Jerome d'Ambrosio 1
21. Vitantonio Liuzzi 1

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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by JoostLamers » 18 Apr 2011, 11:53

15 overtakes for a driver who can't overtake, not bad :p
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Post by Zack » 18 Apr 2011, 16:31

JoostLamers wrote:15 overtakes for a driver who can't overtake, not bad :p
Welcome to Formula One 2011 Season :p

We just had too much overtaking in this race. F1 needs to find proper balance for natural racing. Current mixture of Pirreli Tires, DRS and KERS seems to be making it lot easier for driver, at least it seems like this on TV :p

Other day, i saw Indy Car and Rolex Sports Car Series highlights. Not so popular but are fun and worth watching.
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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by François » 18 Apr 2011, 17:35

I disagree with you, Zack, but of course it becomes a matter of personal taste at this point. Even though there has been much more overtaking than we had come to expect, there have also been a lot of great battles, with impressive, daring moves, both offensive and defensive. The simple fact that it is now possible to overtake mean that drivers go about their racing differently, they actually try stuff which they would've been reluctant to do in the past: what about Hamilton's passes on Button at T1, on Vettel going into T7? Rosberg and others overtaking into T16? Artificial DRS-induced racing, or just sheer brilliance? What about Webber and others raising clouds of dust by braking on the dirty side before T14, didn't they take any risks, did that look like easy overtaking? What about Schumi holding up a faster Alonso for several laps? What about Petrov and Heidfeld being able to protect their 3rd position from a faster car in the closing stages of the first two races?

As for me I've been watching F1 for years and years, and this feels like the racing I've always wanted to see. These past few years I would usually be mildly disappointed with the actual racing (except a few classics, usually on the wet), even when the seasons themselves were interesting. This year we've had thrillers two weekends in a row, and we can probably expect a few more. I'm sold.
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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by F1Fan88 » 18 Apr 2011, 17:43

For some reason i always get the impression that the Ferrari has fantastic mechanical grip, possibly the best, but is lacking in further grip provided by aerodynamic downforce.

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Post by Zack » 18 Apr 2011, 19:08

François wrote:I disagree with you, Zack, but of course it becomes a matter of personal taste at this point. Even though there has been much more overtaking than we had come to expect, there have also been a lot of great battles, with impressive, daring moves, both offensive and defensive. The simple fact that it is now possible to overtake mean that drivers go about their racing differently, they actually try stuff which they would've been reluctant to do in the past: what about Hamilton's passes on Button at T1, on Vettel going into T7? Rosberg and others overtaking into T16? Artificial DRS-induced racing, or just sheer brilliance? What about Webber and others raising clouds of dust by braking on the dirty side before T14, didn't they take any risks, did that look like easy overtaking? What about Schumi holding up a faster Alonso for several laps? What about Petrov and Heidfeld being able to protect their 3rd position from a faster car in the closing stages of the first two races?
My Point of View is overtaking now seems to be easier as it was suppose to be(thanks to fia & co). Btw, overtaking was always possible. Matter of the fact is the difference in the performance of car is that allows the overtaking with some added driver skills. That difference is now enhanced using DRS which makes it possible for driver behind to gain more advantage rapidly. I personally don't like this. It seems to be semi blue flag for driver ahead.
And its not like drivers didn't take risk earlier. To contradict, now driver with fresh rubber naturally have better grip so less risk. :p :lol: My Simplified reason is Pirelli tire wear profiles. Similar to tire war scene. It seems to be more natural and organic than DRS. It's like sitting duck v/s road runner

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Re: 2011 UBS Chinese Grand Prix

Post by Vorull » 18 Apr 2011, 19:23

JoostLamers wrote:15 overtakes for a driver who can't overtake, not bad :p
Why "can't" he overtake?

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