Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix 2011

[alex1369]

Mann the penalties are getting like on F1 2010 game - its silly

[phil1993]

To quote something sdutt said in the rate thread.

Yes, Malaysia has a long straight, but there are plenty of long straights on other tracks (all but Monaco, Nurburgring, Hungary, Singapore have very long straights).

And high tyre wear at these races (all but Nurby) will help anyway

[sdutt]

Is it me or the Red Bulls drive faster when they don't use KERS?

its certainly not you
jk

[phil1993]

I didn't see anything on screen which warranted Hamilton's post race penalty. A damaged wing was sufficient penalty for Alonso's misjudgement. Tyre degradation + KERS + DRS meets 'one move allowed to defend' rule Inevitable controversy and anger to follow season long.

[sdutt]

To quote something sdutt said in the rate thread.

Yes, Malaysia has a long straight, but there are plenty of long straights on other tracks (all but Monaco, Nurburgring, Hungary, Singapore have very long straights).

And high tyre wear at these races (all but Nurby) will help anyway

Off-Topic: show

, can you point me where i wrote this, as i dont remember in what context i told that ( i couldnt find it myself)

[sdutt]

A damaged wing was sufficient penalty for Alonso's misjudgement.

i do not agree. ofc, this is opinionated discussion. but once he had the collision, a penalty should be handed down irrespective of after-effects

[sdutt]

its a good thing that it ended as Petrov's mistake, cause else there were fears that Buemi had flicked a bolt from Petrov's steering column and thrown it for Perez's race to end

[phil1993]

A damaged wing was sufficient penalty for Alonso's misjudgement.

i do not agree. ofc, this is opinionated discussion. but once he had the collision, a penalty should be handed down irrespective of after-effects

It was not an offence worthy of a penalty though

[iceman1]

its a good thing that it ended as Petrov's mistake, cause else there were fears that Buemi had flicked a bolt from Petrov's steering column and thrown it for Perez's race to end

Fly high

[sdutt]

A damaged wing was sufficient penalty for Alonso's misjudgement.

i do not agree. ofc, this is opinionated discussion. but once he had the collision, a penalty should be handed down irrespective of after-effects

It was not an offence worthy of a penalty though

ask the F1 2010 game , which hands down penalties for every minor infraction

[iceman1]

He WAS sixth, he IS sixth. That's really unfair, so like no penalty.

[F1Fan88]

For those of you in the UK the incident that Hamilton was penalised for can be seen on iPlayer at time code 2:20:50 here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... rand_Prix/

Well according to Andrew Benson that was the incident he's being penalised for, but it's so incredibly harsh i'm wondering if he's wrong and it actually wasn't broadcasted at all, the following lap on that same straight the camera is on Alonso's rear wing and we can't see what Hamilton is doing just ahead.

Hamilton appears to accept the penalty, but that might just be him not giving a damn anymore because its a bad result either way.

[SpliT]

Overtaking statistics:

Spoiler:

P. Lap. Driver on Driver Position
1. 2 Jarno Trulli Timo Glock 20
2. 3 Kamui Kobayashi Mark Webber 9
3. 5 Felipe Massa Vitaly Petrov 5
4. 6 Mark Webber Kamui Kobayashi 9
5. 7 Kamui Kobayashi Mark Webber 9
6. 8 Mark Webber Kamui Kobayashi 9
7. 8 Kamui Kobayashi Mark Webber 9
8. 8 Sebastien Buemi Jaime Alguersuari 11
9. 9 Adrian Sutil Narain Karthikeyan 21
10. 10 Adrian Sutil Vitantonio Liuzzi 20
11. 12 Mark Webber Jarno Trulli 15
12. 12 Adrian Sutil Jerome d'Ambrosio 19
13. 13 Kamui Kobayashi Michael Schumacher 7
14. 13 Mark Webber Heikki Kovalainen 14
15. 13 Paul di Resta Timo Glock 17
16. 13 Adrian Sutil Timo Glock 18
17. 14 Lewis Hamilton Sebastien Buemi 6
18. 14 Lewis Hamilton Michael Schumacher 5
19. 14 Sebastien Buemi Michael Schumacher 6
20. 14 Nick Heidfeld Jaime Alguersuari 9
21. 14 Sergio Perez Nico Rosberg 11
22. 14 Mark Webber Nico Rosberg 12
23. 14 Mark Webber Sergio Perez 11
24. 14 Felipe Massa Nico Rosberg 13
25. 15 Jenson Button Sebastien Buemi 5
26. 15 Mark Webber Jaime Alguersuari 9
27. 15 Felipe Massa Sergio Perez 11
28. 15 Felipe Massa Jaime Alguersuari 10
29. 16 Lewis Hamilton Kamui Kobayashi 2
30. 16 Paul di Resta Jaime Alguersuari 11
31. 16 Paul di Resta Sergio Perez 10
32. 16 Sergio Perez Paul di Resta 11
33. 17 Fernando Alonso Jenson Button 4
34. 17 Michael Schumacher Sergio Perez 11
35. 22 Felipe Massa Mark Webber 6
36. 22 Jarno Trulli Timo Glock 18
37. 24 Mark Webber Kamui Kobayashi 10
38. 25 Mark Webber Michael Schumacher 8
39. 26 Lewis Hamilton Vitaly Petrov 5
40. 26 Jenson Button Vitaly Petrov 6
41. 27 Sebastian Vettel Felipe Massa 1
42. 27 Paul di Resta Nico Rosberg 11
43. 28 Kamui Kobayashi Michael Schumacher 8
44. 30 Michael Schumacher Jaime Alguersuari 11
45. 32 Nico Rosberg Sebastien Buemi 14
46. 33 Vitaly Petrov Kamui Kobayashi 8
47. 34 Adrian Sutil Jaime Alguersuar 14
48. 38 Paul di Resta Nico Rosberg 11
49. 40 Sebastien Buemi Jaime Alguersuari 14
50. 42 Kamui Kobayashi Michael Schumacher 9
51. 43 Nick Heidfeld Vitaly Petrov 6
52. 43 Felipe Massa Vitaly Petrov 6
53. 47 Nico Rosberg Jaime Alguersuari 14
54. 48 Vitaly Petrov Kamui Kobayashi 8
55. 50 Mark Webber Felipe Massa 5
56. 50 Nico Rosberg Sebastien Buemi 1
57. 52 Nick Heidfeld Lewis Hamilton 3
58. 54 Michael Schumacher Paul di Resta 9



P. Driver Overtaking
1. Mark Webber 10
2. Felipe Massa 6
3. Kamui Kobayashi 6
4. Paul di Resta 5
5. Adrian Sutil 5
6. Lewis Hamilton 4
7. Nick Heidfeld 3
8. Michael Schumacher 3
9. Nico Rosberg 3
10. Sebastien Buemi 3
11. Jenson Button 2
12. Vitaly Petrov 2
13. Jarno Trulli 2
14. Sergio Perez 2
15. Sebastian Vettel 1
16. Fernando Alonso 1

[Ali]

[SpliT]

Haha

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