2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

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Who will win the 2008 Formula One Drivers Championship?

Lewis Hamilton
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59%
Felipe Massa
48
41%
 
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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by JoostLamers » 26 Oct 2008, 10:43

2008 statistics:
Wins:
5 Hamilton, Massa
2 Kimi, Nando
1 Kubica, Kovalainen, Vettel

Wins (teams):
7 Ferrari
6 McLaren
2 Renault
1 BMW

Pole-positions
7 Hamilton
5 Massa
2 Raikkonen
1 Kubica, Kovalainen, Vettel

Pole-positions (teams):
8 McLaren
7 Ferrari
1 BMW, STR

Fastest Laps
10 Raikkonen
2 Massa, Heidfeld, Kovalainen
1 Hamilton

Fastest Laps (teams):
12 Ferrari
3 McLaren
2 BMW

Podiumfinishes:
10 Hamilton
9 Massa
8 Raikkonen
7 Kubica
4 Heidfeld
3 Kovalainen
2 Alonso, Rosberg
1 Trulli, Vettel, Glock, Coulthard, Barrichello, Piquet Jr.

Podiumfinishes (teams):
17 Ferrari
13 McLaren
11 BMW
3 Renault
2 Toyota, Williams
1 Honda, STR, Red Bull

Pointfinishes:
14 Kubica
13 Hamilton
12 Massa
11 Raikkonen, Alonso, Heidfeld
10 Kovalainen
9 Trulli, Webber
8 Vettel
5 Glock, Rosberg, Nakajima, Piquet Jr.
3 Barrichello
2 Coulthard, Bourdais
1 Button

Pointfinishes (teams):
25 BMW
23 McLaren, Ferrari
16 Renault
14 Toyota
11 Red Bull
10 STR, Williams
4 Honda
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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by Arrows_F1 » 26 Oct 2008, 11:59

joostlamers wrote:2008 statistics:
Wins (teams):
7 Ferrari
6 McLaren
2 Renault
1 BMW
*cough* 1 Toro Rosso *cough*

However, thanks for the statistics :O
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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by iceman1 » 26 Oct 2008, 12:01

Thanks Joos :O


Massa says pressure all on Lewis now
http://www.itv-f1.com/Controller.aspx?PO_ID=44402

Kovalainen targets Interlagos win
http://www.itv-f1.com/Controller.aspx?PO_ID=44403

EJ: Lewis must be ready for foul play
http://www.itv-f1.com/Controller.aspx?PO_ID=44400

Heidfeld looking forward to Brazil
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/10/ ... to-brazil/

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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by hitman007 » 26 Oct 2008, 12:15

joostlamers wrote:Forget it, Nico is a friend of Hamilton. And I have a question: Do you, Massa 'fans', really want to become champion in this way??? You are all saying now that Massa can't do it on his own, that's a pretty big sign of weakness!

man i was JOKIN..... no way man....we don't want become champions by that way....but i'm hoping that massa will win and gets the championship and i've faith in him
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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by hitman007 » 26 Oct 2008, 12:17

HandoZiZle wrote:
hitman007 wrote:I think massa is gonna win ...but i think that ferrari might bribe the other drivers like fernado or nick rosberg to block lewis ( till he becomes 6th place) all the way till the checkered flag...or someone fakes an accident with lewis which the FIA think that it's lewis's fault and he gets a drive through penalty....diabolical is in it =p
hehehehehhehheheh
I hope you're not serious with this garbage.

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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by JoostLamers » 26 Oct 2008, 13:19

Arrows_F1 wrote:
joostlamers wrote:2008 statistics:
Wins (teams):
7 Ferrari
6 McLaren
2 Renault
1 BMW
*cough* 1 Toro Rosso *cough*

However, thanks for the statistics :O
How can I forget that one??? I was there!!!! :huh: :huh:

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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by swca92 » 26 Oct 2008, 13:27

The memory of Lewis waving at you drove Vettel's victory out of your mind...

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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by Haukinen » 26 Oct 2008, 14:38

As we were talking about dirty tricks to Hamilton, read what Eddie Jordan told to Daily Express:
...“As for Lewis, he needs to be careful. He knows that right now the world is against him – the other drivers are against him and the stewards are against him. Yet I think what happened to him after his win at Spa [a retrospective penalty for leaving the track pushed him into third place] was ghastly and his penalty in the Japanese Grand Prix was harsh too. That’s what he has to contend with.”

Yet if push literally comes to shove, Jordan says Hamilton must be ruthless in Sao Paolo to seize the title. In the Japan race, his big rival for the title Felipe Massa ran into him, sending Hamilton into a spin. While Massa got a drive-through penalty, Hamilton was relegated to the back of the field by the collision.

“People may not like me for saying this,” said Jordan, “but if Massa tries to take him out as he did in Japan in order to steal the title then Lewis has to be ready for it. If he tries that on then Lewis has to turn his wheel into Massa to ensure he does not finish the race either – he has to take his wheel off,” said Jordan.

And, perhaps equally eyebrow-raising, is the direction Jordan suggests Hamilton should look for inspiration. “He should look no further than his old team-mate Fernando Alonso,” he said. “Alonso may not care much for Lewis but he has shown him how to win the title. He has won two out of the last three races by driving consummately, professionally and calmly. You did not see him doing that by taking unnecessary risks. Lewis could do a lot worse than learn from that.”
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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by iceman1 » 26 Oct 2008, 17:48

Links for keeping an eye on the Brazilian Grand Prix weather:

Accuweather
ClimaTempo
Brazilian Meterological Office
CPTEC - Previsao do Tempo, Sao Paulo

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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by ric.rios » 27 Oct 2008, 00:16

iceman1 wrote:Links for keeping an eye on the Brazilian Grand Prix weather:

Accuweather
ClimaTempo
Brazilian Meterological Office
CPTEC - Previsao do Tempo, Sao Paulo
All 11/02 rains in Sao Paulo...
The circuit stays next at 2 lakes, so, the risk of rain is bigger.
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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by sonofgabe » 27 Oct 2008, 03:16

It's all about Hamilton finishing the race, isn't it? He's got the speed to finish 5th, almost no matter where he qualifies. I don't think he (or the team) will "choke" this year. I can see Massa dominating the race, but it won't be enough. I just hope there's no penalties, and it's a straight fight between the two.

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Post by Zack » 27 Oct 2008, 05:09

^^^i.e. straight forward boring race :laugh1:
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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by raikks » 27 Oct 2008, 08:02

Lewis wants to win the race, no to finish 5th -- and I'm almost sure he'll be the winner. Everybody at McLaren and F1 circles say they'll target the 4 pts they need to win the WC. But it won't be enough for them. They want the Contructors' Championship too. So it will be a tough fight.

McLaren is an unpredictable team, that's why I believe they will push as much as they could for a 1-2. Let's wait and see (Kimi's most used sentence :D)

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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by kimi and mika » 27 Oct 2008, 09:58

He might go for the win but I think he'll go for 3rd, he will have to watch out for Alonso! He will be 4th, so either Hamiltons infront (a risky overtaking attempt gone wrong) or behind (hold him up, don't let him climb up your rear wing) Alonso. He in the same position as last year but it's Massa not Kimi so it's a bit easier and a bit harder.
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Re: 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix - Title Decider

Post by gokul009 » 27 Oct 2008, 10:02

Zack wrote:Src:AFCA
Domenicali on the upcoming weekend: ''I'm convinced that McLaren is in a similar situation to last year so I think we'll be up for a delicate weekend, not just from a competitive and technical point of view but also with regard to the mental and psychological aspects.''

On Massa: ''I've spoken with Massa today, he's absolutely calm. He knows that in order to win the title it's unfortunately not just him that has to do well, there should be circumstances that, let's say are a bit special. But it's worth trying till the end, also because - as we've seen last year - on many occasions the situations change at every moment. So we really have to believe in it and work well up to the last corner.''

On the title rival: ''Hamilton is certainly a great driver, he has shown that in these two years, he's made progress. But I have to say that we don't underestimate (him), instead we have to emphasize what Felipe has done because he's done a great championship in difficult conditions. So in the end we'll make up the balance.''

On the future regulations: ''I think this is certainly an important moment for Formula 1 because we have to look ahead, not just reaching an agreement, even if the various teams naturally have different interests, but together with the FIA we really have to create a basis for a Formula 1 that is aware of the (financial) problems in the world. It's certainly a critical and difficult phase, but definately a very stimulating one also. On the other hand it's certainly an historic moment because there has never been an agreement between all the teams and our homework, also Ferrari's homework, is to try and maintain this balance, protecting the political aspects and fighting our competitors on track corner after corner.''
If Kubica drove in a Ferrari or a McLaren, he would have been the world champion. He's a better driver than both Hamilton and Massa who have made many mistakes this year. Kubica just does not have a fast car!
Number of poles (Hamilton 7, Massa 5, Kubica 1)
Number of fastest laps (Hamilton 1, Massa 2, Kubica 0)
Number of wins (Hamilton 5, Massa 5, Kubica 1)
This proves Hamilton and Massa have MUCH faster cars than Kubica.

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