The current rules work!!!
- Sanredrose
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Re: The current rules work!!!
FIA never thought of the Economic downturn that could happen. So they probably emphasized earlier of KERS, simply thinking that making the sport greener is more important. But now the situation has reversed.
What ever rules they are currently trying to introduce is basically trying to mess with an existing system ! What problem did we have with slick tyres in 96 & 97 ? Wasn't the championship interesting ? In fact 1997 had Mclaren, Ferrari, Williams, Benetton & Jordan winning races ! But from 1998 only Mclaren & Ferrari managed to win. Though the 1998 season was good, FIA basically messed up with the structure shuffling the remaining team in terms of their grid order.
FIA can be renamed as " Federation of Illiterate Automobile Maniacs " !
What ever rules they are currently trying to introduce is basically trying to mess with an existing system ! What problem did we have with slick tyres in 96 & 97 ? Wasn't the championship interesting ? In fact 1997 had Mclaren, Ferrari, Williams, Benetton & Jordan winning races ! But from 1998 only Mclaren & Ferrari managed to win. Though the 1998 season was good, FIA basically messed up with the structure shuffling the remaining team in terms of their grid order.
FIA can be renamed as " Federation of Illiterate Automobile Maniacs " !
- TwistedArmco
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Re: Standard Engine Tender
Let's call it GP1. That would be more adequate.
No, I'm not calmer. Just more jaded.
Re: Standard Engine Tender
Lets call it A2GP,that's even more bloody adequate.
Re: Standard Engine Tender
More rumors about Mosley's true motives:
[u][url=http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71558]http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71558[/url][/u] wrote: Senior sources have suggested there is a fear within FOTA that Mosley is using the threat of a standard engine, plus recent suggestions of engine equalization rules and the return of customer cars, as a way to break what has appeared to be rare unity in team ranks following the formation of FOTA.
Suspicions of a bid to destabilize FOTA increased in China when high-level sources suggested that the organisation had been asked to change its name because Formula One Management owned the trademark to 'Formula One.'
Most teams and manufacturers have maintained their silence so far on the FIA's bid to introduce a standard engine in F1, or reveal details about what their plans for Tuesday's meeting are.
However, Williams co-owner Patrick Head said on Saturday that he was not surprised Mosley had opted for a shock tactic like the introduction of standard engines to prompt teams into action.
"I think Max is quite serious about it, but I suppose after many years of dealing with F1 teams and representatives of manufacturers in F1 he has rather developed the view that any mechanism of change not only has to be painful but is going to be painful," explained Head.
"If you say to the teams how are you going to reduce costs or how are you going to make change, then none of them want to make change. That is the problem.
"Max is in quite regular contact with people at senior levels of manufacturers, just as he is in regular contact with people in senior positions at teams like Williams or Red Bull. All those people say that current costs in F1 are not sustainable. So his view is that if it is left as it is, there will be a number of departures."
Re: The current rules work!!!
Sanredrose wrote:FIA never thought of the Economic downturn that could happen. So they probably emphasized earlier of KERS, simply thinking that making the sport greener is more important. But now the situation has reversed.
What ever rules they are currently trying to introduce is basically trying to mess with an existing system ! What problem did we have with slick tyres in 96 & 97 ? Wasn't the championship interesting ? In fact 1997 had Mclaren, Ferrari, Williams, Benetton & Jordan winning races ! But from 1998 only Mclaren & Ferrari managed to win. Though the 1998 season was good, FIA basically messed up with the structure shuffling the remaining team in terms of their grid order.
FIA can be renamed as " Federation of Illiterate Automobile Maniacs " !
Ermm...In 1997 Williams, Ferrari, McLaren and Benetton won races, in 1998 McLaren, Ferrari and Jordan won. So you messed up Damon Hill´s victory for Jordan, it was in 98, after Michael retired at Spa (the infamous Coulthard incident), not in 97
I Don´t want to sound precociously, but I saw it and felt like I have to correct it Sry mate.
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Re: The current rules work!!!
Yeah its possible that i forgot some famous victories. But look at the majority proportion. Jordan won a single race in 98. But in 1997 Mclaren won 3, Ferrari should have won 5 or so & Williams around 6 wins. That's something that's kind of interesting.blizzard wrote:Sanredrose wrote:FIA never thought of the Economic downturn that could happen. So they probably emphasized earlier of KERS, simply thinking that making the sport greener is more important. But now the situation has reversed.
What ever rules they are currently trying to introduce is basically trying to mess with an existing system ! What problem did we have with slick tyres in 96 & 97 ? Wasn't the championship interesting ? In fact 1997 had Mclaren, Ferrari, Williams, Benetton & Jordan winning races ! But from 1998 only Mclaren & Ferrari managed to win. Though the 1998 season was good, FIA basically messed up with the structure shuffling the remaining team in terms of their grid order.
FIA can be renamed as " Federation of Illiterate Automobile Maniacs " !
Ermm...In 1997 Williams, Ferrari, McLaren and Benetton won races, in 1998 McLaren, Ferrari and Jordan won. So you messed up Damon Hill´s victory for Jordan, it was in 98, after Michael retired at Spa (the infamous Coulthard incident), not in 97
I Don´t want to sound precociously, but I saw it and felt like I have to correct it Sry mate.
Last year it was Mclaren or Ferrari all the way, i don't remember seeing anyone else win the race. In 2008 so far Mclaren, Renault, Ferrari & BMW have won races. So that's pretty good. Mad Max is a loose canon, his rampage is going to make things worse and not better.
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Re: Standard Engine Tender
Probably Mad Max is trying to de-stabilize the FOTA campaign. He simply doesn't want anyone to be stronger than him & Bernie in F1.syncmaster wrote:I think it not cost cutting its fun cutting
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Re: The current rules work!!!
Sanredrose wrote:Yeah its possible that i forgot some famous victories. But look at the majority proportion. Jordan won a single race in 98. But in 1997 Mclaren won 3, Ferrari should have won 5 or so & Williams around 6 wins. That's something that's kind of interesting.blizzard wrote:Sanredrose wrote:FIA never thought of the Economic downturn that could happen. So they probably emphasized earlier of KERS, simply thinking that making the sport greener is more important. But now the situation has reversed.
What ever rules they are currently trying to introduce is basically trying to mess with an existing system ! What problem did we have with slick tyres in 96 & 97 ? Wasn't the championship interesting ? In fact 1997 had Mclaren, Ferrari, Williams, Benetton & Jordan winning races ! But from 1998 only Mclaren & Ferrari managed to win. Though the 1998 season was good, FIA basically messed up with the structure shuffling the remaining team in terms of their grid order.
FIA can be renamed as " Federation of Illiterate Automobile Maniacs " !
Ermm...In 1997 Williams, Ferrari, McLaren and Benetton won races, in 1998 McLaren, Ferrari and Jordan won. So you messed up Damon Hill´s victory for Jordan, it was in 98, after Michael retired at Spa (the infamous Coulthard incident), not in 97
I Don´t want to sound precociously, but I saw it and felt like I have to correct it Sry mate.
Last year it was Mclaren or Ferrari all the way, i don't remember seeing anyone else win the race. In 2008 so far Mclaren, Renault, Ferrari & BMW have won races. So that's pretty good. Mad Max is a loose canon, his rampage is going to make things worse and not better.
I agree with you, a 100%. But that´s not a new problem, the person must be removed for the sake of F1, but unfortunately he´s glued to his seat as FIA president. But I also can´t see good alternatives to Mad Max, Tomcyck?, Todt?, Piccinini? No thx!
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Re: The current rules work!!!
I don't see the point in all these rule changes, can't they leave it alone for at least 2 years, everybody is used to it like this and then they change it, then in 2010 there could be more changes. This all spreads out the field, they might make overtaking easier but with KERS and other things the teams will be more spead out, it makes no difference. I agree that it should be more consistant.
Re: The current rules work!!!
I would love it, if the big manufacturers would leave F1 and create their own series, with V10 power, unlimited testing and aerodynamics based on the early 2000´s F1 rules.
That whole topic about cutting costs in F1 is ridiculous. F1 will always be a mega expensive sport. When talking about cutting costs, why don´t they cut the ticket prizes? The average people are suffering most from inflation and financial crisis and 600 dollars or so for a grandstand weekend ticket is just a joke.
That whole topic about cutting costs in F1 is ridiculous. F1 will always be a mega expensive sport. When talking about cutting costs, why don´t they cut the ticket prizes? The average people are suffering most from inflation and financial crisis and 600 dollars or so for a grandstand weekend ticket is just a joke.
Re: The current rules work!!!
You should read this.
The full letter to FOTA from Max Mosley
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71629
The full letter to FOTA from Max Mosley
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71629
Spoiler:
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Re: Standard Engine Tender
Next thing will be standardized drivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Standard Engine Tender
i think mad max has gone mad!!!!