that first link, is the picture of the steering wheel of BMW Sauber osweat:iceman1 wrote:Count 4 paddles on this replicaZack wrote:i doubt their is enough information available atm .. to comment on that.syafiqa wrote:So what u think??
Is it Mclaren innocent or not?
iceman1 has posted same the info ..copy pasted at many news sites ..which is incorrect.
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There's a video I found on You Tube about steering wheels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXrBi1Y46zU
J.J. Lehto says that Renault also has a similar system and that Alonso doesn't like it too much and doesn't even use it. Also, he says that it takes a lot of training to get it right, and it probably brings a tenth per lap max. Drivers have to operate two paddles with both hands, which requires a lot of coordination skills. Then, he says that McLaren has overall got their car working really well with aerodynamics etc.
Basically he downplays the significance of that wheel. Also, he says that it depends on the engine supplier if the teams are gonna implement a similar system.
2008 FORMULA 1 Hungarian Grand Prix
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Of course there is enough information! There's a standard ECU which FIA can read up until a sneeze from the driver, remember?Zack wrote:i doubt their is enough information available atm .. to comment on that.syafiqa wrote:So what u think??
Is it Mclaren innocent or not?
iceman1 has posted same the info ..copy pasted at many news sites ..which is incorrect.
FIA does check on thottle mapping, steering wheels and so forth after every race.
Just look at this:
http://www.fia.com/germanygp/documents/ ... Report.pdf
So far the McLaren system is legal.
FIA will have to change the rules to make it illegal. Period.
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I wonder whether McLaren have gained an advantage on this matter as they are the official ECU supplier with Microsoft.
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I taught there were always 4 paddles with the bottom two as the clutch?
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Yeah he should be able to use a new one.Arrows_F1 wrote:What about Mark Webber ? His engine blew up in Germany, isn't he allowed to use a fresh one in Hungary then ?xyneid wrote:Current status for engines and gear boxes of drivers:
So, Kimi, Lewis and Hekki will use new engines whereas Felipe will use the same engine. Kimi's and Lewis' gear boxes will experience their last race.Code: Select all
Driver Engine Gearbox Kimi Raikkonen E2 G3 Felipe Massa E1 G1 Nick Heidfeld E2 G2 Robert Kubica E1 Opt G2 Fernando Alonso E1 G3 Nelson Piquet E1 Opt G3 Nico Rosberg E2 G4 Kazuki Nakajima E2 G2 David Coulthard Opt E2 Opt G4 Mark Webber E2 G2 Jarno Trulli E1 G1 Timo Glock E1 G4 Sebastien Bourdais E1 G3 Sebastian Vettel E1 Opt G3 Jenson Button Opt E2 Opt G4 Rubens Barrichello E2 G1 Adrian Sutil Opt E2 Opt G3 Giancarlo Fisichella E1 Opt G3 Lewis Hamilton E2 G3 Heikki Kovalainen E2 G2
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I don't think so. Anything that becomes a standard unit means there is no more trying to gain advantage out of it.xyneid wrote:I wonder whether McLaren have gained an advantage on this matter as they are the official ECU supplier with Microsoft.
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I think most of u guys have gone off topic. As for the Hungarian GP it will be close between Ferrari & McLaren.But looking at the results i think Macca has got the upper hand & lewis is capitalising on it.As there is not much point difference between the top 4 drivers one mistake from any of them can have big changes in the points table.For ferrari they have a lot of work to do to catch up Mclaren.That we will wait & see it the tests at jerez has bought something good for them & obviously from Fp1 onwards we will see the result
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Throttle mapping hmmm .. i dunno if they are allowed to change for every corner ... and everyone know their always room for something ..anything is possibleSuntrek wrote:Of course there is enough information! There's a standard ECU which FIA can read up until a sneeze from the driver, remember?
FIA does check on thottle mapping, steering wheels and so forth after every race.
Just look at this:
http://www.fia.com/germanygp/documents/ ... Report.pdf
So far the McLaren system is legal.
FIA will have to change the rules to make it illegal. Period.
Btw ... what i mean was their is no clear info about paddles ... the few theories i have read sounded legal.
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Ok, back on topic, I don't think Piquet will get anywhere near scoring another podium in Hungary.. unless it rains.
But going straight back off topic, is it worth noting that Nelsinho scored a first podium way earlier in his career than Nelson Piquet Sr. did.
Don't dismiss him just yet.
But going straight back off topic, is it worth noting that Nelsinho scored a first podium way earlier in his career than Nelson Piquet Sr. did.
Don't dismiss him just yet.
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Nelsinho is coming As you say: He won't get anywhere near a podium in Hungary, but maybe it gave him a boost of confidence, so that he can score a point or more at Budapest. I really hope he stays in F1.TwistedArmco wrote:Ok, back on topic, I don't think Piquet will get anywhere near scoring another podium in Hungary.. unless it rains.
But going straight back off topic, is it worth noting that Nelsinho scored a first podium way earlier in his career than Nelson Piquet Sr. did.
Don't dismiss him just yet.
But I was thinking this morning.. About Heikki. Maybe McLaren tries to get him to take the victory in Hungary, for the work he has been doing last races. He helped Lewis a bit, and he done well in qualifying last races. But.. The big question is: Is he able to do the job, is he able to win?
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No, McLaren will be 100% behind Lewis to get him the biggest lead possible. If he wins the championship before the last race, thats only when the team will help Heikki more. They will want every point going for Lewis
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Those were my second thoughts osweat:phil1993 wrote:No, McLaren will be 100% behind Lewis to get him the biggest lead possible. If he wins the championship before the last race, thats only when the team will help Heikki more. They will want every point going for Lewis
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That's how it looks like although Dennis claims otherwise again:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69473
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69473
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He would say that though.And if McLaren aren't supporting Lewis more,then they're being stupid,as Lewis is leading the WDC and Heikki is nowhere. Supporting Lewis in this situation is the common sense thing to do.
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yeah, now Ferrari have the McLaren 07 situation of which driver to support, whereas McLaren can throw it all behind Lewis. But aren't the points low compared to when we were going into Hungary last year?