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IndyCar Series 2012 *Indianapolis 500 | May 27*

Post by phil1993 » 24 Mar 2012, 20:46

IndyCar 2012

Here's the grid for tomorrow's race at St. Petersburg, featuring 4 ex-F1 drivers

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Pos  Driver               Team/Car                      Time        Gap
 1.  Will Power           Penske DW12-Chevrolet         1m01.3721s
 2.  Ryan Briscoe         Penske DW12-Chevrolet         1m01.5357s  + 0.1636s
 3.  Ryan Hunter-Reay     Andretti DW12-Chevrolet       1m01.9321s  + 0.5600s
 4.  James Hinchcliffe    Andretti DW12-Chevrolet       1m01.9701s  + 0.5980s
 5.  Helio Castroneves    Penske DW12-Chevrolet         1m01.9987s  + 0.6266s
 6.  Simon Pagenaud*       Schmidt-Hamilton DW12-Honda   1m02.1095s  + 0.7374s
 7.  Scott Dixon          Ganassi DW12-Honda            1m01.7636s  Top 12
 8.  Marco Andretti       Andretti DW12-Chevrolet       1m01.7895s  Top 12
 9.  Tony Kanaan          KV DW12-Chevrolet             1m01.8699s  Top 12
10.  Dario Franchitti     Ganassi DW12-Honda            1m01.9570s  Top 12
11.  Graham Rahal         Ganassi DW12-Honda            1m02.0233s  Top 12
12.  Mike Conway          Foyt DW12-Honda               1m02.5084s  Top 12
13.  EJ Viso              KV DW12-Chevrolet             1m02.5146s  Group 1
14.  Rubens Barrichello   KV DW12-Chevrolet             1m02.2009s  Group 2
15.  Takuma Sato          Rahal DW12-Honda              1m02.6015s  Group 1
16.  Justin Wilson        Dale Coyne DW12-Honda         1m02.2538s  Group 2
17.  Alex Tagliani        Herta DW12-Lotus              1m02.6506s  Group 1
18.  JR Hildebrand        Panther DW12-Chevrolet        1m02.4426s  Group 2
19.  Josef Newgarden      Fisher Hartman DW12-Honda     1m02.7155s  Group 1
20.  James Jakes          Dale Coyne DW12-Honda         1m02.5271s  Group 2
21.  Simona de Silvestro  HVM DW12-Lotus                1m02.8218s  Group 1
22.  Charlie Kimball      Ganassi DW12-Honda            1m03.0437s  Group 2
23.  Oriol Servia         Dreyer & Reinbold DW12-Lotus  1m02.8771s  Group 1
24.  Ed Carpenter         Carpenter DW12-Chevrolet      1m03.3591s  Group 2
25.  Katherine Legge      Dragon DW12-Lotus             1m03.6048s  Group 1
26.  Sebastien Bourdais   Dragon DW12-Lotus             1m05.6858s  Group 2


*10 place penalty

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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by Ferrariman60 » 25 Mar 2012, 03:07

Looks set to be an intersting season. I'll be watching full time because of Barrichello and the turbocharged engines. It might give us an idea of what to expect in F1 starting in 2014.
Requiescat in pace, Jules Bianchi


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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by phil1993 » 25 Mar 2012, 19:17

Helio wins



:hug:

ABC's TV direction was awful.

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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by François » 25 Mar 2012, 20:09

:blink:

Who said the 2012 F1 cars were ugly? :zz:
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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by reppo » 25 Mar 2012, 21:01

François wrote::blink:

Who said the 2012 F1 cars were ugly? :zz:

Nose looks better, but the rear looks like they borrowed if from karts :p
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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by f1freak » 26 Mar 2012, 07:00

phil1993 wrote:IndyCar 2012

Here's the grid for tomorrow's race at St. Petersburg, featuring 4 ex-F1 drivers

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Pos  Driver               Team/Car                      Time        Gap
 1.  Will Power           Penske DW12-Chevrolet         1m01.3721s
 2.  Ryan Briscoe         Penske DW12-Chevrolet         1m01.5357s  + 0.1636s
 3.  Ryan Hunter-Reay     Andretti DW12-Chevrolet       1m01.9321s  + 0.5600s
 4.  James Hinchcliffe    Andretti DW12-Chevrolet       1m01.9701s  + 0.5980s
 5.  Helio Castroneves    Penske DW12-Chevrolet         1m01.9987s  + 0.6266s
 6.  Simon Pagenaud*       Schmidt-Hamilton DW12-Honda   1m02.1095s  + 0.7374s
 7.  Scott Dixon          Ganassi DW12-Honda            1m01.7636s  Top 12
 8.  Marco Andretti       Andretti DW12-Chevrolet       1m01.7895s  Top 12
 9.  Tony Kanaan          KV DW12-Chevrolet             1m01.8699s  Top 12
10.  Dario Franchitti     Ganassi DW12-Honda            1m01.9570s  Top 12
11.  Graham Rahal         Ganassi DW12-Honda            1m02.0233s  Top 12
12.  Mike Conway          Foyt DW12-Honda               1m02.5084s  Top 12
13.  EJ Viso              KV DW12-Chevrolet             1m02.5146s  Group 1
14.  Rubens Barrichello   KV DW12-Chevrolet             1m02.2009s  Group 2
15.  Takuma Sato          Rahal DW12-Honda              1m02.6015s  Group 1
16.  Justin Wilson        Dale Coyne DW12-Honda         1m02.2538s  Group 2
17.  Alex Tagliani        Herta DW12-Lotus              1m02.6506s  Group 1
18.  JR Hildebrand        Panther DW12-Chevrolet        1m02.4426s  Group 2
19.  Josef Newgarden      Fisher Hartman DW12-Honda     1m02.7155s  Group 1
20.  James Jakes          Dale Coyne DW12-Honda         1m02.5271s  Group 2
21.  Simona de Silvestro  HVM DW12-Lotus                1m02.8218s  Group 1
22.  Charlie Kimball      Ganassi DW12-Honda            1m03.0437s  Group 2
23.  Oriol Servia         Dreyer & Reinbold DW12-Lotus  1m02.8771s  Group 1
24.  Ed Carpenter         Carpenter DW12-Chevrolet      1m03.3591s  Group 2
25.  Katherine Legge      Dragon DW12-Lotus             1m03.6048s  Group 1
26.  Sebastien Bourdais   Dragon DW12-Lotus             1m05.6858s  Group 2


*10 place penalty


Looking at the grid I am very much surprised that Rhubino qualified 14 on his debut.

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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by François » 06 Apr 2012, 07:59

Just got done watching the second race of the season, which was won by Will Power.

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Pos  Driver               Team/Car                           Time/Gap
 1.  Will Power           Penske DW12-Chevrolet         2h01m40.1127s
 2.  Scott Dixon          Ganassi DW12-Honda                + 3.3709s
 3.  Helio Castroneves    Penske DW12-Chevrolet            + 19.1150s
 4.  Graham Rahal         Ganassi DW12-Honda               + 19.3395s
 5.  Simon Pagenaud       Schmidt-Hamilton DW12-Honda      + 20.1050s
 6.  James Hinchcliffe    Andretti DW12-Chevrolet          + 23.3093s
 7.  Mike Conway          Foyt DW12-Honda                  + 24.5552s
 8.  Rubens Barrichello   KV DW12-Chevrolet                + 25.4023s
 9.  Sebastien Bourdais   Dragon DW12-Lotus                + 27.1815s
10.  Dario Franchitti     Ganassi DW12-Honda               + 32.7377s
11.  Marco Andretti       Andretti DW12-Chevrolet          + 33.5038s
12.  Ryan Hunter-Reay     Andretti DW12-Chevrolet          + 35.8730s
13.  Oriol Servia         Dreyer & Reinbold DW12-Lotus     + 37.8944s
14.  Ryan Briscoe         Penske DW12-Chevrolet            + 41.6742s
15.  JR Hildebrand        Panther DW12-Chevrolet           + 44.5059s
16.  James Jakes          Coyne DW12-Honda                 + 54.5343s
17.  Josef Newgarden      Fisher DW12-Honda              + 1m00.6182s
18.  EJ Viso              KV DW12-Chevrolet                   + 1 lap
19.  Justin Wilson        Coyne DW12-Honda                    + 1 lap
20.  Simona de Silvestro  HVM DW12-Lotus                      + 1 lap
21.  Tony Kanaan          KV DW12-Chevrolet                   + 1 lap
22.  Ed Carpenter         Carpenter DW12-Chevrolet           + 2 laps
23.  Katherine Legge      Dragon DW12-Lotus                  + 5 laps

Did not finish:

     Takuma Sato          Rahal DW12-Honda                    52 laps
     Charlie Kimball      Ganassi DW12-Honda                  45 laps
     Alex Tagliani        BHA DW12-Lotus                       0 laps

That was good racing, with lots of battles and clean overtakes all around, no silly collision and only two full-course caution periods that didn't wreck anyone's strategy. The driving standards in the series seem to have stepped up a notch.

No French bias I swear, but I was quite impressed with Pagenaud, who claimed 6th in St. Pete and now 5th at Barber. Mighty fast and an excellent racer, not the least bit intimidated by all the more experienced drivers around him. Also keep an eye on Bourdais, he may well end up proving that his four Champ Car titles were actually no fluke... that is if the Lotus package keeps improving, of course.
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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by NICO_4EVER » 15 Apr 2012, 15:29

Barrichello's season hasn't started bad at all. He's currently 10th at standings and collected more points than his team mates at KV Racing Technology. I haven't watched the races, though, but it's great for Barrichello that he has found a job and has gotten into it.

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Post by François » 16 Apr 2012, 08:11

Yup, Rubens's not doing too bad at the moment. Let's hope he can keep it together on ovals as well.

Haven't watched yesterday's Long Beach race yet but it seems to have been a thriller, with Power claiming the win after narrowly fending off a charging... Pagenaud, whose start to his rookie season has been absolutely amazing so far. He'll be a winner before long! :)
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Post by François » 24 Apr 2012, 18:16

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99133

Yet another bunch of good news about Group Lotus's motorsport commitment!
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Post by François » 29 Apr 2012, 18:38

Yet another win for Verizon. That's a hat trick for Will Power and four out of four for Team Penske this season, very impressive.

Thoughts:

(1) No matter how messy and unpredictable these races are, Power (almost) always ends up (somehow) on top. Very impressive in a series where the cars are so closely matched.

(2) These street circuits look all the same and they're dull. Their only "interesting" feature is the potential to generate silly collisions and pile-ups because they're so narrow, and the resulting inevitable Caution periods make the results a bit less predictable.

(3) Everybody's been praising the DW12 chassis. I think the cars look very slow and heavy compared to Formula 1 cars (notwithstanding the actual top speed on ovals). I wonder if they actually are?
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Post by phil1993 » 29 Apr 2012, 19:13

Race was okay, TV direction was awful. The chicane at Turn 1 is just comical, always has been.

Power's really impressive though; there's only five Ovals this year and if he can pick up decent results on them then he'll win the championship. Franchitti's struggled to adapt to the DW12 and his good luck has run out finally.

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Post by François » 29 Apr 2012, 20:51

phil1993 wrote:TV direction was awful. The chicane at Turn 1 is just comical, always has been.

Agreed on both statements. Particularly hated how they sometimes chose to focus on the leading three or four cars during the restarts. Not to mention the missed overtakes, the replay of Helio going wide twenty minutes earlier... &doh

Power's really impressive though; there's only five Ovals this year and if he can pick up decent results on them then he'll win the championship. Franchitti's struggled to adapt to the DW12 and his good luck has run out finally.

In a way it was cool to see him back in the upper half of the field this time at least. He never quite looked like winning it but he drove a decent race. Let's hope he or somebody else can give the Aussie a bit of a fight.

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Results - 75 laps:

Pos  Driver               Team/Car                           Time/Gap
 1.  Will Power           Penske DW12-Chevy             2h08m18.2816s
 2.  Ryan Hunter-Reay     Andretti DW12-Chevy               + 0.9045s
 3.  Takuma Sato          Rahal DW12-Honda                  + 2.3905s
 4.  Helio Castroneves    Penske DW12-Chevy                 + 4.5489s
 5.  Dario Franchitti     Ganassi DW12-Honda                + 5.1722s
 6.  James Hinchcliffe    Andretti DW12-Chevy               + 6.2615s
 7.  JR Hildebrand        Panther DW12-Chevy                + 8.3764s
 8.  Charlie Kimball      Ganassi DW12-Honda                + 8.5905s
 9.  EJ Viso              KV DW12-Chevy                    + 10.3449s
10.  Rubens Barrichello   KV DW12-Chevy                    + 10.8477s
11.  Oriol Servia         Dreyer & Reinbold DW12-Lotus     + 24.4771s
12.  Simon Pagenaud       Schmidt DW12-Honda                  + 1 lap
13.  Tony Kanaan          KV DW12-Chevy                       + 1 lap
14.  Marco Andretti       Andretti DW12-Chevy                 + 1 lap
15.  James Jakes          Dale Coyne DW12-Honda               + 1 lap
16.  Graham Rahal         Ganassi DW12-Honda                  + 1 lap
17.  Scott Dixon          Ganassi DW12-Honda                  + 1 lap
18.  Sebastien Bourdais   Dragon DW12-Lotus                   + 1 lap
19.  Mike Conway          Foyt DW12-Honda                    + 2 laps
20.  Ana Beatriz          Andretti DW12-Chevy                + 2 laps
21.  Ed Carpenter         Carpenter DW12-Chevy               + 3 laps

Retirements:

     Justin Wilson        Dale Coyne DW12-Honda               66 laps
     Josef Newgarden      Fisher DW12-Honda                   61 laps
     Simona de Silvestro  HVM DW12-Lotus                      28 laps
     Ryan Briscoe         Penske DW12-Chevy                   21 laps
     Katherine Legge      Dragon DW12-Lotus                   20 laps
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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by François » 09 May 2012, 10:58

The Group Lotus situation is getting hilarious:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99457

In brief: after two teams parted company with the engine supplier, another one (Dragon) have now done the same and are suing Group Lotus over several (alleged) contract breaches. Lotus are now effectively only supplying one (!) car full-time.

Expect another press release from them saying everything's all right!
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Re: IndyCar Series 2012

Post by phil1993 » 09 May 2012, 13:43

Dragon is suing them for at least $4.5m.

I guess in Lotus's books that's simply a reshuffling of the financial situation

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