Felipe Massa Injury - Fisichella to race to the end of 2009

Post by **phil1993** » 27 Jul 2009, 19:07

Barrichello and Piquet have set up a twitter page for Massa to read and I have sent him this message:

'Felipe, the whole of the F1Zone.net community is thinking of you with all our love.'

Ali · Post by **Ali** » 27 Jul 2009, 19:16

phil1993 wrote:Barrichello and Piquet have set up a twitter page for Massa to read and I have sent him this message:

'Felipe, the whole of the F1Zone.net community is thinking of you with all our love.'

Yes, I've seen it but I couldn't understand how I can send a message. Nelson wrote #followmonday thing. What is #followmonday

Anyway, it's nice message. I hope you can reply them by himself very soon

Post by **phil1993** » 27 Jul 2009, 19:20

I also sent him a message from my account

http://twitter.com/Forza_Felipe

Piquet says :'Leave your message and we will deliver everything, including to [I think he means 'your'] account, to Felipe!'

miladjuckel · Post by **miladjuckel** » 28 Jul 2009, 05:24

Ferrari boss not ruling out Schumacher return

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Post by **Zack** » 28 Jul 2009, 08:56

oh no!

Ali · Post by **Ali** » 28 Jul 2009, 09:12

Zack wrote:oh no!

Personally I very much like to see Schumi in a Red car again. For that, I could even fly to Spain or Italy just to see him lapping. But on the other hand, I fear that he might be slow enough to damage his reputation. I don't wanna see him being let's say half a second off Raikkonen's pace. That would not only hurt him, but me. I hope he is wise wnough to assess his driving ability and drivers reflexes.

Ali · Post by **Ali** » 28 Jul 2009, 09:53

Will Massa race again?
An article from Pitpass

Back in 1999, when Michael Schumacher was injured in a first lap accident during the British Grand Prix, and several times since, Dr Iain Corness - aka Pitpass' Medical Delegate - has given his invaluable medical opinion, more often than not proving to be 100% correct.

In the wake of Felipe Massa's accident at the Hungaroring, and in light of some of the more sensational reportage, The Doc has come up with the following, though he is at pains to point out that he is not a Neurosurgeon or an Ophthalmologist. Furthermore, it must be made clear that he has not examined Felipe, nor is he privy to the scans that have been taken, or the operation notes.

With this in mind, Iain writes:

As the world has been made very aware, Felipe Massa suffered a head injury during Qualifying at the Hungaroring on Saturday. The injury came from what we call "blunt trauma"; to the left side of his forehead, just above his eye.

As I write this, the doctors in Hungary are being cautiously optimistic as regards the contusion to the brain, but are also saying that it is too early to tell the degree of possible damage to his left eye.

I am not a Neurosurgeon, nor am I an Ophthalmologist, but I was a Medical Assessor for the Confederation of Australian Motor Sports (CAMS) for 25 years, and from that point of view, the main problem for Massa in returning to F1, as I see it, is going to be a vision situation.

Blunt trauma to the forehead, enough to fracture the skull and produce brain concussion will most likely have fractured the orbit, in which the eye sits, with the optic nerve going through the rear of the orbit to the brain proper. The orbit is like an eggshell and is made up of seven facial bones, with the frontal bone, being the top of the orbit margin, and trauma transmitted to it may produce other orbit fractures. The fractured bone(s) and swelling after trauma can damage the optic nerve and alter the position of the globe of the eye within the cup-like orbit, or trap the muscles which move the eye in various directions. (Sorry to be a little technical here, but it is necessary that you understand the anatomy.)

Forgetting the brain concussion for now (from which he most likely will recover, though in a best-case scenario that will be measured in months, not weeks), damage to the orbit/optic nerve will be at least a few months before the swelling settles, even if the anatomy is not disturbed and damage to the optic nerve is bruising only. The likelihood of greater damage is high.

The principal morbidity associated with orbital fractures is eye injury. Associated injuries include corneal abrasion, lens dislocation, iris disruption, choroid tear, scleral tear, ciliary body tear or bruise, retinal detachment and tear, hyphema, ocular muscle entrapment, and globe rupture.

Any of the conditions listed above can cause vision problems, and an F1 competitor needs two good eyes which work together. Consequently, I would not expect Felipe Massa to be back in the cockpit this year, and indeed I would go so far as to suggest this may be the end of his racing career. I hope not, but it would not surprise.

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http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38582

Post by **phil1993** » 28 Jul 2009, 09:56

Coulthard: 'This is a time for cool heads'

With Felipe Massa's Hungarian Grand Prix qualifying crash and the tragic accident of Formula Two's Henry Surtees just six days before having both been caused by striking debris on race tracks, greater head protection is now being considered in the sport. Closed off cockpits is a possible solution, although David Coulthard is less convinced.

Having first competed in Formula One as replacement to the late Ayrton Senna at Williams in 1994, the start of Coulthard's F1 career came after a shocking wake-up call for the sport as Roland Ratzenberger and Senna had both lost their lives on one fateful weekend. "During my career it was not all that unusual to be hit by bits of flying debris - stones that were kicked up by cars ahead and so on," Coulthard explained to The Telegraph. "It is an inherent weakness in the design of a Formula One car and a basic risk of open-cockpit racing.

"Perhaps it surprises non-F1 fans that the most vulnerable area of the body is the least protected but I would argue that this feature is indispensable; we could close the cockpit and build machines that are more like touring cars, but that would go against the essence of our sport. Although we have seen two awful crashes in a week, I would advocate the exercise of restraint rather than jump to any knee-jerk response. Safety is uppermost in people's minds right now but that shouldn't influence decisions. Yes, a wheel came off Fernando Alonso's Renault during the race on Sunday, but I think the decision to suspend the team for Valencia next month was harsh and a conscious response to recent events."

Although it may be somewhat a cliché, Coulthard has reminded all that 'Motor racing is dangerous' but agrees that safety remains a paramount concern. "Of course you can try to make it as safe as possible but sometimes accidents do happen," he continued. "Both the incident in F2 involving Henry Surtees and the one involving Ferrari F1 driver Felipe Massa were desperately unfortunate; if either car had crashed into a barrier and the driver had been struck on the head by some sort of projectile then it would have been unlucky, but both guys were on the track and doing their jobs."

The Scot went on to stress that there have already been a number of close shaves in recent years from which drivers' survival should not be taken for granted. "After my crash in Melbourne in 2007, when I went over the top of Alexander Wurz's car, they made the sides of the cockpits higher," he explained. "From what I'm hearing, the new reinforced carbon-fibre helmet is what saved Massa's life on Saturday. Nevertheless, there is no getting away from the fact that the head is still exposed to oncoming debris, which begs the question: should there be some sort of screen to deflect flying objects?

"I heard Ross Brawn (Brawn GP team principal) saying that any sort of shield would be shattered by a metal spring weighing a kilo and travelling at 170 miles per hour, but what do they use on planes? You can always develop newer, stronger materials and anything that absorbed energy would at least reduce the risk of fatality or serious injury. As for helmets and visors, they can be made stronger still, although the issue of weight is a factor. I'm all for improving the safety in Formula One; I just don't want to see the essence of the sport compromised - this is a time for cool heads."

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http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/07/28/this-is-a-time-for-cool-heads-coulthard/

Interesting article Ali. I have to say I doubt he'll be back for a few races at the very least, but Barrichello said he can see with both eyes and its just the swelling above his eye that is stopping him from opening it himself; although they have to wait and see if there is damage, because if there is, then he cannot race. But even if he can, will he be the same Felipe?

Ali · Post by **Ali** » 28 Jul 2009, 10:07

phil1993 wrote: Interesting article Ali. I have to say I doubt he'll be back for a few races at the very least, but Barrichello said he can see with both eyes and its just the swelling above his eye that is stopping him from opening it himself; although they have to wait and see if there is damage, because if there is, then he cannot race. But even if he can, will he be the same Felipe?

You know, what caught my eye is some drivers did very good indeed after their huge crashes. Kubica, Glock and Kovalainen to name a few.

After his huge accident in Canada, Kubica managed to be 4th in the very next race he participated. So did Glock. After his crash in Germany last year, he managed to step up on the podium in Hungary, which was the next race he raced. Kovalainen? After his big accident in Spain last year, he qualified in the front row in the next race, Turkish GP. And Schumi. After he broke his leg in 1999 Silverstone, he couldn't race for some races but then he managed to grasp 5 title.

I know they are not in the same league with Massa's accident but still there is a hope for him to be better. There is always hope.

Post by **phil1993** » 28 Jul 2009, 10:09

Yes, I said the other day that some get better, some get worse. Hopefully its the first of these

Post by **phil1993** » 28 Jul 2009, 10:49

Massa might leave hospital in 10 days

Ali · Post by **Ali** » 28 Jul 2009, 10:58

Schumacher would consider return
Michael Schumacher is not ruling out the possibility of standing in for injured Ferrari driver Felipe Massa. The Brazilian is recovering in hospital after suffering a fractured skull at the Hungarian Grand Prix and is likely to be out for the rest of the year. "The whole thing will be considered by Ferrari. If they approach Michael, then he will consider it," the seven-time champion's spokeswoman told BBC Sport. "But there is no reason for him to step into their discussion."

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8172310.stm

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Massa could leave hospital in 10 days

Felipe Massa's recovery is going so well that he could walk out of hospital by the end of next week, his doctor has said.

On the back of further encouraging signs about Massa's condition following the fractured skull he suffered in his qualifying accident for the Hungarian Grand Prix, doctors are now hopeful that he may be able to leave the AEK Hospital in Budapest soon.

Peter Bazso, the medical director of the hospital, told Hungarian TV channel M1 on Tuesday: "My expectation is that he would walk out of the hospital on his own. If his recovery continues at this pace, I wouldn't rule out that he could leave within 10 days."

Massa has been brought out of an induced coma and has now been taken off a respirator

"He's spending more and more time awake, talking to family and friends," Bazso said.

Massa's wife, parents, brother and manager Nicolas Todt have remained in hospital with him, and Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali is due to visit him on Tuesday.

However, while it remains uncertain about the extent of any eye injury that Massa may have suffered, Bazso has also said that Massa's condition must still be monitored closely.

"I would like to point out that although he's recovering, this is not the end of the story, he is still in a life-threatening condition," Bazso said. "Of course, the danger is decreasing by the day."

Massa's injuries were caused when he was struck on the helmet by a flying spring that had come off the back of Rubens Barrichello's Brawn GP car.

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77391

Post by **phil1993** » 28 Jul 2009, 11:37

In the same BBC story, they say DC could fill in

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 172310.stm

Ali · Post by **Ali** » 28 Jul 2009, 12:05

andrebires · Post by **andrebires** » 28 Jul 2009, 12:19

Massa already opened the left eye and answered questions in three languages (Portuguese, English and Italian).

http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/ ... R+BEM.html

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