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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 16:04  
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10 place grid penalty?

Way too little!

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 16:08  
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It's a lot enough, as there was no contact. It was dangerous, but as there was no accident, 10 place grid penalty is enough imo. Spectacular shot those pictures iceman!
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 16:26  
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About 550 GP with those two drivers :p

And 33 years of combined F1 experience.

Poor driving by Michael, 10 place grid drop is the best penalty.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 17:10  
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Mercedes GP has been fined $50,000

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 17:12  
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Mercedes GP has been fined $50,000

Mercedes and Renault.

Ross Brawn to Schumi : "Okay so, Rubens is faster than you. Can you confirm that you understood that message?"
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 17:29  
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iceman1 wrote:
antyk wrote:
Mercedes GP has been fined $50,000

Mercedes and Renault.

Ross Brawn to Schumi : "Okay so, Rubens is faster than you. Can you confirm that you understood that message?"


This is unbelievable, this is CLEARLY team orders!! Schumacher cleary slows down and open the door to let Barrichello through!
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 17:56  
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Alonso and Massa are now the only 2 drivers who haven't retired from a race.
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 20:24  
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Alonso and Massa are now the only 2 drivers who haven't retired from a race.


No, Nando suffered an engine failure in Asia, either Malaysia or China. When he battled with Button, remember? :O

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 20:29  
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im back from Hungary, mann it was hot there, i saw some things that u didnt saw on tv like Force India loosing parts of front wing, Virgin going very winde wit big sparks under DD, it was great as always on F1 race, Shame HAM retired(what whas the problem?) and saw live the BAR vs MSC, mann my breath stopped i tought he is in the wall, and saw the great pass from Lewis on Kubica - the best move of the race
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 20:56  
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alex1369 wrote:
Lewis on Kubica - the best move of the race


Hamilton overtook Petrov not Kubica.
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 21:07  
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escalador wrote:
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Lewis on Kubica - the best move of the race


Hamilton overtook Petrov not Kubica.


Honestly, the move from Barrichello on Schumacher was the best as neither drivers didn't want to yield! Hamilton's one was great too though! :drool:
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 22:49  
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iceman1 wrote:
Alonso and Massa are now the only 2 drivers who haven't retired from a race.


No, Nando suffered an engine failure in Asia, either Malaysia or China. When he battled with Button, remember? :O

he was classified because he stopped 2 lap from the end. (He completed more than 90% of the race, and was classified 13th)
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 23:12  
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blizzard wrote:
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Alonso and Massa are now the only 2 drivers who haven't retired from a race.


No, Nando suffered an engine failure in Asia, either Malaysia or China. When he battled with Button, remember? :O

he was classified because he stopped 2 lap from the end. (He completed more than 90% of the race, and was classified 13th)

Yeah same goes for Hamilton who retired before 2 laps in spain, and was classified 14th.
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2010, 23:20  
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Pretty hard racing there but history books will still remember one of the drivers as a 7 x world champion and the other as the lackey of the first driver during 5 of those championships. And Rubens is also a whiner too. Sometimes you just have to know when to stop, just in case the madman in front of you will not. Seriously Rubens quit whining: "Yes it was. It was the most dangerous thing I’ve ever been through and I’m sorry for that.” Hey Rubens, how was Imola 1994 ? Was taking off at the chicane and flying into the tire wall less dangerous ?

Technically Michael made the one move which is allowed by the regulations. He should not be penalized. Was it morally right ? No. But it was not technically wrong - and yet again the sporting regulations are disregarded just as they were last week. It does not say anywhere in the sporting regs. where the limit of racing is. Schumacher is not the only one to dangerously rather another competitor this year - Webber did it and ended in a flight... Team mates did it: Vettel drove into Webber while Alonso cut onto the grass and the chicane and merged in front of Massa on the pitlane access road. If that dangerous driving went unpunished...why is Michael punished ?

Unfortunately I feel the driver steward idea is one of the worst. It is a means for former drivers an opportunity to vent their frustrations during the years of racing and have a worrying lack of consistency in their decisions. This whole summer driver stewards made some poor decisions and none more poor than when HH Frentzen acted, a few races back.
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix
PostPosted: 02 Aug 2010, 00:33  
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I think the move was okay. What did Rubens expect? That Michael would open up the door for him? It's racing. Michael squeezed him extremely, I have to say. But they did not touch and Rubens got through. Great move though, I have to say. So I think it was okay. Michael defended hard, but left him just about the space of a Williams. Maybe a warning would do, but a ten place drop is too harsh I think.
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