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Rate the 2010 Chinese GP
10/10 Absolutely perfect! 14%  14%  [ 8 ]
9/10: Superb race! 48%  48%  [ 28 ]
8/10 A great race! 14%  14%  [ 8 ]
7/10: Fun to watch 17%  17%  [ 10 ]
6/10 Quite good 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
5/10: Average 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
4/10 Sub-par 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
3/10: Barely worth watching 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
2/10: Boring 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
1/10: Atrocious! 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 58
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 Post subject: Re: Rate the 2010 Chinese GP
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2010, 19:15  
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dacer wrote:
FIA rules, one and two podium..


Debris on track, SC deploying was a good move. It would have been dangerous for the marshals to clear and debris on track can cause accidents

dacer wrote:
Button must be penalizated for stop race on second SC.


That move was within the rules, the other drivers failed to anticipate it. Under the rules, Button effectively becomes the safety car and therefore controls the pace. Alonso did a similar thing at the 2006 British Grand Prix and escaped unpenalised.

dacer wrote:
Hamilton must be penalizated for Hamilton-Vettel pit lane


A reprimand for both drivers was fair as Vettel pushed Hamilton into an area where mechanics were working but equally, Hamilton should have realised that he wasn't going to beat Vettel out of the pits.

dacer wrote:
Hamilton-Webber second SC restart


If you watch the replay, Webber reacted slowly to the restart (now that you can overtake after the last safety car line, which is now situated prior to the final corner). Vettel used this to his advantage in an attempt to overtake Hamilton but misjudged his move and pushed Hamilton into the side of Webber. Lewis could do nothing, so it was Vettel's fault.

I think firstly that you need to understand the situations before making some hyperbolic statements that may anger some other people who can view the events with an open mind. Hamilton drove a great race, made it entertaining like he did in Australia and we should be thankful that the FIA have not transformed into the nanny state that it seemed to be descending into over recent seasons. Such incidents that have been commented on now are made to seem so major but 10 years ago they would have been dismissed as a non-event.

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 Post subject: Re: Rate the 2010 Chinese GP
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2010, 19:59  
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dacer wrote:
1 - Best Driver: Button, but must be penalizated
5 - Worst Driver: Hamilton, he drove with FIA decision
6 - Worst Team: McLaren. Without FIA decision 0 points!!
9 - General Comment:
FIA rules, one and two podium. Button must be penalizated for stop race on second SC. Hamilton must be penalizated for Hamilton-Vettel pit lane, Hamilton-Webber second SC restart.


we have a new MaFIA team in f1........mclaren?!?!? :blink: :n

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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2010, 21:52  
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JoostLamers wrote:
dacer wrote:
5 - Worst Driver: Hamilton, he drove with FIA decision
6 - Worst Team: McLaren. Without FIA decision 0 points!!

:rofl:

phil1993 wrote:
dacer wrote:
FIA rules, one and two podium..


Debris on track, SC deploying was a good move. It would have been dangerous for the marshals to clear and debris on track can cause accidents

dacer wrote:
Button must be penalizated for stop race on second SC.


That move was within the rules, the other drivers failed to anticipate it. Under the rules, Button effectively becomes the safety car and therefore controls the pace. Alonso did a similar thing at the 2006 British Grand Prix and escaped unpenalised.

dacer wrote:
Hamilton must be penalizated for Hamilton-Vettel pit lane


A reprimand for both drivers was fair as Vettel pushed Hamilton into an area where mechanics were working but equally, Hamilton should have realised that he wasn't going to beat Vettel out of the pits.

dacer wrote:
Hamilton-Webber second SC restart


If you watch the replay, Webber reacted slowly to the restart (now that you can overtake after the last safety car line, which is now situated prior to the final corner). Vettel used this to his advantage in an attempt to overtake Hamilton but misjudged his move and pushed Hamilton into the side of Webber. Lewis could do nothing, so it was Vettel's fault.

I think firstly that you need to understand the situations before making some hyperbolic statements that may anger some other people who can view the events with an open mind. Hamilton drove a great race, made it entertaining like he did in Australia and we should be thankful that the FIA have not transformed into the nanny state that it seemed to be descending into over recent seasons. Such incidents that have been commented on now are made to seem so major but 10 years ago they would have been dismissed as a non-event.

megasyxx wrote:
dacer wrote:
1 - Best Driver: Button, but must be penalizated
5 - Worst Driver: Hamilton, he drove with FIA decision
6 - Worst Team: McLaren. Without FIA decision 0 points!!
9 - General Comment:
FIA rules, one and two podium. Button must be penalizated for stop race on second SC. Hamilton must be penalizated for Hamilton-Vettel pit lane, Hamilton-Webber second SC restart.


we have a new MaFIA team in f1........mclaren?!?!? :blink: :n


He is British, drove for McLaren, and know a lot of about F1.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 631369.stm
By Martin Brundle
BBC F1 analyst
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After the brutal and sometimes unfathomable penalties of the past few years we now seem to have swung the completely other way. I don't believe McLaren were guilty of an unsafe release when Hamilton nearly clouted the side of Vettel's car.

Hamilton and Vettel go side by side down the pit-lane
The lollipop man cannot watch everybody else's pit stop and second guess how much wheelspin his man will get on wet concrete.
But the subsequent driver behaviour down the pit lane was positively dangerous. Vettel shoved Hamilton towards the wheel guns and mechanics, albeit long after Hamilton should have yielded. They both received a reprimand, but what does that mean? How long does a reprimand last and how many are you allowed to collect before a real penalty?
They are lucky I wasn't the resident driver steward for the weekend because I would have strongly recommended dropping them both some penalty places on the grid for the next race in Barcelona. The decision taken has set a very dangerous precedent.
I'm more relaxed about side-by-side action into the pit lane entry, where no person or equipment is in the road. It has been interpreted before that this is against the rules.
On that subject, Alonso passed Massa with a cunning move into the pit lane. How did Ferrari recognise that so quickly and swap Massa's tyres, which were already in the pit-stop area, for Alonso's so they could be fitted first?
Finally, I would also have recommended at least a flaky reprimand if not a drive-through penalty when Button unreasonably slowed the pack for a safety car restart. It was a clear breach of the rules unless he could demonstrate that the safety car had been unreasonably slow entering the pit lane.
I wouldn't have been a popular steward with my former McLaren team but that job is not a popularity contest. Ask any referee.


ummm, I think like a British + McLaren driver + F1 Expert. Nice, you can laught or tell any stories. You know Hamilton and Button must be punished.

A question, this is "Rate the 2010 Chinese GP", or a "Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix 2010" comments topic?

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 Post subject: Re: Rate the 2010 Chinese GP
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2010, 07:53  
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1 - Best Driver
Button
2 - Best Team
McLaren
3 - Best Overtake
Hamilton double move on Sutil and Vettel
4 - Best Moment
Too many to choose from
5 - Worst Driver
Liuzzi
6 - Worst Team
Sauber
7 - Best Rookie
Petrov
8 - Biggest Surprise
Alonso's jump start

9 - General Comment
Awesome race, proof that rain is the key to excitement.
8/10

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PostPosted: 21 Jun 2010, 22:51  
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1. Hamilton
2. McLaren
3. Hamilton double move on Sutil and Vettel
4. Nico Rosberg on the first place
5. Schumacher
6. Sauber
7. Petrov
8. Petrov 7th place
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