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Who will win the 2010 Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix?
Poll ended at 17 Apr 2010, 16:51
Felipe Massa 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
Fernando Alonso 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
Sebastian Vettel 45%  45%  [ 28 ]
Jenson Button 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Nico Rosberg 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Lewis Hamilton 19%  19%  [ 12 ]
Robert Kubica 8%  8%  [ 5 ]
Mark Webber 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Adrian Sutil 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Michael Schumacher 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Vitantonio Liuzzi 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Rubens Barrichello 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 62
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 Post subject: Re: Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix 2010
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2010, 18:59  
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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2010, 19:06  
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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2010, 21:59  
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phil1993 wrote:
Because that is a ridiculous penalty. Okay, so when Hamilton cut the chicane at Spa, he should be given the time it would take to take the chicane (4 seconds) and add to his race time rather than 25 seconds? No, a penalty is what the rules state a penalty is. The penalty was a drive through which had to be turned into a 25s race time delay. The rule for a jump start has always been for a penalty and rightly so.

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i think alonso's jump start ruling was a bit on the borderline.....seeing the replays, i think the car moved exactly when the lights went off > or maybe a hundredth or two before.....very hard to judge.

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that 0.1 secs (as you say) at the start is not only that amount of time of advantage.

3rd to 1st = two positions we'll never know if he would overtake without that jump start. And the two most dificult positions to get..that was big advantage..

Rules are Rules. If you broke some, you MUST be penalizated. No matter what your name or what your car.

0.1 delay is ridiculous, yes of course, I said that, it's so ridiculous like a reprimand. And there are some drivers with a lot of reprimand this year (let's forget crane and other stories), with are not penalizated, and others, who are penalizated as far as he deserved.

Let's drive with same rules for everyone.

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megasyxx wrote:
i think alonso's jump start ruling was a bit on the borderline.....seeing the replays, i think the car moved exactly when the lights went off > or maybe a hundredth or two before.....very hard to judge.


He moved 0.2 seconds before the red lights off.

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andrebires wrote:
megasyxx wrote:
i think alonso's jump start ruling was a bit on the borderline.....seeing the replays, i think the car moved exactly when the lights went off > or maybe a hundredth or two before.....very hard to judge.


He moved 0.2 seconds before the red lights off.

No matter if was for 0.1 or 0.2 or 0.001. He broke a rule, he MUST be penalizated. But others who broke rules, must be penalizated too, and this is the problem, they wasn't penalizated.

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PostPosted: 22 Apr 2010, 07:43  
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phil1993 wrote:
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"We hate the FIA for ruining the sport with penalties"
"We hate the FIA for not giving Driver X a penalty"

Hypocrits.

The FIA were ridiculous with the penalties in the Mosley era (particularly the later stage) but this year there has been over-compensation. Penalties should still be handed out where appropriate. Penalties for such things as 'blocking' a driver that's nowhere near you are absolutely ludicrous, but penalties for driving that is extremely dangerous is appropriate.

Yes there are some hypocrites, but they can be easily ignored.

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phil1993 wrote:
F1 Fans:

"We hate the FIA for ruining the sport with penalties"
"We hate the FIA for not giving Driver X a penalty"

Hypocrits.

"We hate the FIA for ruining the sport with penalties for Ferrari"
"We hate the FIA for not giving Hamilton a penalty"

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JoostLamers wrote:
phil1993 wrote:
F1 Fans:

"We hate the FIA for ruining the sport with penalties"
"We hate the FIA for not giving Driver X a penalty"

Hypocrits.

"We hate the FIA for ruining the sport with penalties for Ferrari"
"We hate the FIA for not giving Hamilton a penalty"

NOT!!!!!

We hate the FIA, until they have same rules for every driver!!!

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PostPosted: 22 Apr 2010, 11:53  
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megasyxx wrote:
i think alonso's jump start ruling was a bit on the borderline.....seeing the replays, i think the car moved exactly when the lights went off > or maybe a hundredth or two before.....very hard to judge.


He moved 0.2 seconds before the red lights off.



great video there andre......well there ya go, alonso really did jump the start. falcon eyes there for whiting. :thumbsup:

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phil1993 wrote:
F1 Fans:

"We hate the FIA for ruining the sport with penalties"
"We hate the FIA for not giving Driver X a penalty"

Hypocrits.

:thumbsup: agreed, im sure ive seen cars wheel to wheel in the pitlane before im very sure of it but for some reason this is being made into a bigger deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the thing with alonso's start was unfortunate as one of the commentators said at the time once he started moving he incurred the penalty so he just kept his foot down, what does surprise me is how charli whitting and the others noticed it if it really was 0.1sec they must have eyes like hawks.
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PostPosted: 22 Apr 2010, 17:57  
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dazmoffman wrote:
phil1993 wrote:
F1 Fans:

"We hate the FIA for ruining the sport with penalties"
"We hate the FIA for not giving Driver X a penalty"

Hypocrits.

:thumbsup: agreed, im sure ive seen cars wheel to wheel in the pitlane before im very sure of it but for some reason this is being made into a bigger deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the thing with alonso's start was unfortunate as one of the commentators said at the time once he started moving he incurred the penalty so he just kept his foot down, what does surprise me is how charli whitting and the others noticed it if it really was 0.1sec they must have eyes like hawks.

or they only have eyes for Alonso.
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