Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Friday

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by François » 21 Jun 2013, 14:03

lol

Well that's anticlimatic.
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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by icemaid » 21 Jun 2013, 14:18

What a joke! :lol: :roll::

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by F1EA » 21 Jun 2013, 15:30

LOL
All that drama for a young driver test. I wonder if the other teams will now use current drivers in the YDT and take the reprimand...

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by iceman1 » 21 Jun 2013, 15:42

F1EA wrote:LOL
All that drama for a young driver test. I wonder if the other teams will now use current drivers in the YDT and take the reprimand...
No, because it won't be in good faith :p

Let's wait and see the next step in Brawn's cheating strategy :lol:

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by donald29 » 21 Jun 2013, 17:01

Horse Whisperer kicking off...

Fair play to Horner for accepting the decision.

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by François » 21 Jun 2013, 17:36

The FIA should award itself a lifetime ban for bringing the sport into disrepute.
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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by mikhailv » 21 Jun 2013, 17:54

donald29 wrote:Horse Whisperer kicking off...

Fair play to Horner for accepting the decision.

Mclaren had no penalty in 2007. Until.....

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Post by kals » 21 Jun 2013, 18:28

Until...

...the lying Spaniard's course of deception was exposed after he had attempted to blackmail the team ower, who then came forward and presented all the evidence that Spaniard had originally witheld.

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by phil1993 » 21 Jun 2013, 18:49

I broke the news to a few of Red Bull's PRs. Safe to say their reaction wasn't positive...

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by donald29 » 21 Jun 2013, 19:03

mikhailv wrote:
donald29 wrote:Horse Whisperer kicking off...

Fair play to Horner for accepting the decision.

Mclaren had no penalty in 2007. Until.....
Mmm but weren't they initially found to have done nothing wrong? Here Mercedes have been perceived to have done wrong and punished. Whether it is to be considered severe enough is another issue.

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by mikhailv » 21 Jun 2013, 19:57

kals wrote:Until...

...the lying Spaniard's course of deception was exposed after he had attempted to blackmail the team ower, who then came forward and presented all the evidence that Spaniard had originally witheld.
Well, Ferraris protest too.

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Post by Joey Zyla » 22 Jun 2013, 11:00

A lot of Red Bull/Ferrari fanboys here getting angry over the fact the test was undertaken by Pirelli. You guys are so funny, continue being mad, it's entertaining.

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by mikhailv » 22 Jun 2013, 14:05

Joey Zyla wrote:A lot of Red Bull/Ferrari fanboys here getting angry over the fact the test was undertaken by Pirelli. You guys are so funny, continue being mad, it's entertaining.
Not about the test being undertaken by anyone. its the fact that running any 2013 car is illegal in any way shape or form, as has been for as long as I remember; You cannot run a car of this or the previous season. It has to be 2 years old. Theres no way to get around that. From what I understood, Mercedes never got a 'Yes you can test with a 2013 car', just a 'we could take that view'. Theres a difference between we could, and we will.

The other thing is, there was a clear sporting advantage gained. The criteria for doing the test was NOT met, deeming it illegal. It was far too 'secret'; why would you put your drivers in blank overalls and a black helmet when its a 'legal' and 'official' test?

The only reason Mercedes AND Pirelli got off scott free is because

A) Mercedes will pull out. one team gone and 3 further without engines
B) Bernies precious stock floatation is reliant on Mercedes
C) Giving any ban will mean Lewis and Nico wont be at their home races nor would the team be at their home races
D) Pirelli will just leave
E) No other tyre supplier apart from michelin is interested but teams refuse to adapt

Mercedes were found guilty or bringing the sport into disrepute and guilty of cheating/breaking the rules. They got away with it through politics. No way in hell can you be guilty of something but only 'in good faith'. If its good faith, why wasn't all teams alerted and representatives invited along with Lewis/nico running their own colours and fences blocked off so nobody could get in or see even at public areas?

Its just an utter joke. And the most infuriating thing is that there was one party who has been severely penalised; Sam Bird. In a time or promoting young drivers, in a time where they dont have enough track time. The FIA go and punish an innocent up and coming GP2 driver; the future stars of the sport, the people who will carry the name of Formula 1 onwards.

Its plain sick.

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Re: Mercedes/Pirelli International Tribunal - Decision Frida

Post by F1EA » 22 Jun 2013, 17:22

Yup. The verdict was a joke. A big act in the art of BS.

Its fair to Pirelli. But from Merc's side, it was more a political decision... gotta keep Merc happy; after all they've spent and the results they've gotten......

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