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F1 2012 Driver Rankings

Post by phil1993 » 03 Dec 2012, 18:57

They're back!

Here is Part One...
http://www.f1zone.net/news/2012-driver- ... one/17093/

Even though it's got my name on it - because I wrote it - the staff here have all agreed (roughly) on the order.

Part Two will come next week. Ie, when I've written it.

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Post by F1EA » 03 Dec 2012, 21:03

Really difficult task, but good job. It's a nice read as well.

I guess one can consider pt.1 a flashbang... but make sure you have a bulletproof vest once pt.2 comes out hehehe


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Post by Treacle » 10 Dec 2012, 17:03



Nice! I love the style. :)
Can't wait till part three.
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Post by donald29 » 10 Dec 2012, 19:55

Er Phil...

'Let’s just hope he stays away from bikes.'

http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/104779

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Post by phil1993 » 10 Dec 2012, 19:56

That's because I wrote it on Friday. Yeah...

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Post by Edi96 » 11 Dec 2012, 23:57

It's time to start some sort of discussion about this ranking. In my opinion Maldonado and Grosjean are overrated, especially if you compare them to the Mercedes-drivers. The Williams has been better than the Mercedes but even unlucky and sometimes unconcentrated Schumacher has outscored Maldonado. Good pace but he didn't deliver. At least Rosberg should be ranked ahead of him as he has scored twice as much points as Maldonado, even though his car wasn't competitive. His last races might have overshadowed the rest of the season a little bit but he really had bad luck in Japan, Korea, VAE & Brazil.

Grosjean has been nowhere after his ban. He lacked confidence and lost pace compared to Kimi. Romain has scored 20 points in the last seven races while his teammate scored 66 points. The podium was never in reach for him. Not every incident he had was his fault, but far too many to belong in the top10 of this season.

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Post by Adam » 13 Dec 2012, 12:18

Team bosses voted Alonso as the best driver in 2012.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104812

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Post by tderias » 13 Dec 2012, 12:33

Hulkenberg is in the top 8 then... good choices made so far!

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Post by phil1993 » 13 Dec 2012, 17:08

Indeed he is. As are the other 7! :p

Autosport's Top Ten
10. Maldonado
9. Ricciardo
8. Rosberg
7. Hulkenberg
6. Webber
5. Raikkonen
4. Button
3. Vettel
2. Hamilton
1. Alonso

My top 8 is a little different...

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Post by reppo » 13 Dec 2012, 23:22

Adam wrote:Team bosses voted Alonso as the best driver in 2012.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104812

So not all team bosses voted Alonso to be the best :huh:
With twelve team bosses on average they voted:

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Pos Driver            Pts  Avg pts
1   Fernando Alonso   269  22.42
2   Sebastian Vettel  198  16.5
3   Lewis Hamilton    177  14.75
4   Kimi Raikkonen    176  14.67
5   Jenson Button     104  8.67
6   Mark Webber       66   5.5
7   Nico Hulkenberg   50   4.17
8   Nico Rosberg      30   2.5
9   Sergio Perez      30   2.5
10  Felipe Massa      27   2.25

Would be interesting to see how votes/points spread among team bosses and all drivers and not just top ten.

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Post by mnmracer » 14 Dec 2012, 08:37

With the outset that 8 team bosses voted for Alonso 1st, I've tried to figure out how the drivers ranked.
Of course this is only a guess, but there are only so many ways you can reach those points over 12 votes.

Fernando Alonso: 8 times 1st, 3 times 2nd, 1 time 3rd
Sebastian Vettel: 3 times 1st, 3 times 2nd, 1 time 3rd, 2 times 4th, 3 times 5th
Lewis Hamilton: 1 time 1st, 3 times 2nd, 4 times 3rd, 2 times 4th, 3 times 5th, 1 time 7th
Kimi Räikkönen: 3 times 2nd, 6 times 3rd, 1 time 4th, 2 times 5th

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Post by Treacle » 14 Dec 2012, 10:11

mnmracer wrote:With the outset that 8 team bosses voted for Alonso 1st, I've tried to figure out how the drivers ranked.
Of course this is only a guess, but there are only so many ways you can reach those points over 12 votes.

Fernando Alonso: 8 times 1st, 3 times 2nd, 1 time 3rd
Sebastian Vettel: 3 times 1st, 3 times 2nd, 1 time 3rd, 2 times 4th, 3 times 5th
Lewis Hamilton: 1 time 1st, 3 times 2nd, 4 times 3rd, 2 times 4th, 3 times 5th, 1 time 7th
Kimi Räikkönen: 3 times 2nd, 6 times 3rd, 1 time 4th, 2 times 5th


It seems a bit unrealistic that anyone would vote Hamilton 7th... Even voting him 5th doesn't seem right (as voting Vettel 5th doesn't seem right either).
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Post by reppo » 14 Dec 2012, 11:46

mnmracer wrote:With the outset that 8 team bosses voted for Alonso 1st, I've tried to figure out how the drivers ranked.
Of course this is only a guess, but there are only so many ways you can reach those points over 12 votes.

Fernando Alonso: 8 times 1st, 3 times 2nd, 1 time 3rd
Sebastian Vettel: 3 times 1st, 3 times 2nd, 1 time 3rd, 2 times 4th, 3 times 5th
Lewis Hamilton: 1 time 1st, 3 times 2nd, 4 times 3rd, 2 times 4th, 3 times 5th, 1 time 7th
Kimi Räikkönen: 3 times 2nd, 6 times 3rd, 1 time 4th, 2 times 5th

This looks like a complex sudoku puzzle. There are totally 1212 points, 101 points per team boss, 12 team bosses, 24 drivers, 12 x 24 matrix (maybe less if HRT, Marussia and Caterham drivers are left out) and totally 85 points went out of top 10. Anyone good in sudoku?

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Post by mnmracer » 14 Dec 2012, 15:23

Treacle wrote:It seems a bit unrealistic that anyone would vote Hamilton 7th... Even voting him 5th doesn't seem right (as voting Vettel 5th doesn't seem right either).


reppo wrote:This looks like a complex sudoku puzzle. There are totally 1212 points, 101 points per team boss, 12 team bosses, 24 drivers, 12 x 24 matrix (maybe less if HRT, Marussia and Caterham drivers are left out) and totally 85 points went out of top 10. Anyone good in sudoku?


I agree it looks strange, I had to double-check myself too, but it's the only way I can seem to fit the drivers to the points they've gathered (and still having only 12 votes per position).

You're welcome to try and solve the puzzle yourself (though of course, the tricky thing is that there are probably also other drivers voted, that didn't make top 10).
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