kals wrote:There's going to be a lot more pressure on Button now as...
- Hamilton (the supposed faster driver and team "darling") is gone
- Perez has joined and has zero history with the team, but is known to be very quick
- Jenson is now the senior figure and will be expected to be McLaren's sole challenger for the title
Buttons going to fail miserably. Lewis lost his favour in the team in 2010.
phil1993 wrote:It's peculiar with Jenson, because he can be a right bastard yet he always comes out smelling of roses. He's a nice guy, which is I guess why that happens.
I just don't think Whitmarsh is right at McLaren. I see him as doing a good job, but not as team principal. Something at that team needed shaking up, but losing Lewis and Paddy Lowe was perhaps the worst thing to happen. McLaren needed to do more - not just in terms of racing, but behind the scenes - to convince Lewis he was their #1 for the next few years. They couldn't do that and it's to their detriment.
Supposedly Sauber was pretty unimpressed with Perez towards the end of 2012 in terms of commitment, but according to Autosport he's bucked up and put in the commitment over the winter.
I dont like Jenson, he is a smarmy and scheming swine. Whitmarsh is a decent team boss. I think his problem is, jenson was HIS signing, and HIS darling. Ron is gone so Martin was no longer under his shadow, but the team was still building towards Lewis which severely hampered Jenson. I dont believe Jense will established a firm holding on the team at all.
And Perez to me is over rated.
kals wrote:I think you'll find that Perez did everything he could at Sauber to showcase the talent he's got. And then when Ferrari said no and McLaren said yes he felt didn't need to prove anything anymore and his performances go some way to agree with that.
Whitmarsh hasn't done a good job at McLaren since being handed the reigns by Dennis. Not a good job at all. That's like saying Nick Fry did a good job when Brawn won the titles in 2009. Whitmarsh mismanaged the relationship with Lewis to a very poor extent and instead helped to alienate him. In 2012, despite having the best car at the start of the season Whitmarsh allowed poor pitstop management to be a continual theme and when they recorded the quickest pitstop of all time, lauded his team's effectiveness and speed.... forgetting how many points had been lost up until that point... then there was Barcelona...
See I dont see what talent Perez truly has. I know he had 3 podiums, but if you look, they were podiums which were gambles on a reverse tyre strategy in Monza and in Canada. It wasn't speed, overtaking, skill. it was qualifying poorly and going against the safe option most of the field went for. Thats not talent, thats spirited strategy. Malaysia was a great performance, but again the Sauber was better than the Ferrari and we cant bemoan his mistake; it was natural for a young driver under that pressure.
but the rest of 2012 he performed really poorly. Take his podiums away and he scored merely 15 points all season. finished only 6 points ahead of Kamui. Is that impressive? A show of talent? Certainly not at all in my book.
And Whitmarsh still hasnt done a bad job. The blame in 2010 has to lay with the drivers, 2011 lewis failed the team with his mistakes BUT redbull had a league of their own. 2012 is when they cost lewis, and Jenson cost the team.
the driver and car just dont seem to be at optimum at the same time. Jenson was at optimum, the car was a league behind. 2010 the car could win, but Lewis lagged behind making two crucial mistakes. 2012 the car/team failed Lewis, while Jenson failed the car/team.
they just cant get the two components to work in harmony. like Ferrari too.