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PostPosted: 16 May 2012, 20:43  
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Spain sharing? What of France? The US mess. Korea. No Rush in Russia.
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Is F1 heading for a calendar problem? Discuss!

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PostPosted: 16 May 2012, 21:39  
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Awesome article Phil. I think your last paragraph sums up the key issue. The global recession is the main antagonist here; unemployment, no income, no money for an F1 ticket, and the end result is the organisers making a loss and looking to withdraw from the F1 calendar.

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PostPosted: 16 May 2012, 21:48  
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Exactly. Silverstone, Monaco and Abu Dhabi are the only circuits I would say are safe. Well, Silverstone until 2025 anyway. There's a lot of other countries that have problems - Brazil is in need of an upgrade which is coming next year. Bernie has given Canada the hurry up to improve facilities (which they will be doing), while Hungary has been hit by the crash of the Florin compared to the Euro and the Dollar. Monza has the noise brigade and there's always that lingering doubt regarding Suzuka. I only focused on the countries that are in a really troubling situation, but most countries on the calendar are far from secure when it comes to F1.

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I think we'll see more race alternating just like Nurby and Hockenheim for Germany and now Barcelona and Valencia for Spain.

For the tracks to be able to afford Bernie's rates I think more will enter in to share deals meaning Bernie gets the larger selection of countries he wants and everyone gets a go.

I don't think 2 US GPs will be sustainable so I think they'll share in a couple of years time. Maybe also China and Korea. If he wants Argentina or Mexico to join they can share the slot with Brazil or each other.

There isn't enough room for all of them so unless someone goes, this is the only option.

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It is money problem as many other problems in F1. Either Bernie lowers the price of the race or he takes races to where people (countries) can pay. Interestingly Turkey dropped out because of the $26m price and Istanbul Park AS, which runs Istanbul F1 track, is owned by Formula One Group, which is owned by SLEC Holdings, which is controlled by Delta Topco, which is... :zz:
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The latest is that Mexico will return next year thanks to Spain's rotation. It will take place at the Hermanos Rodriguez circuit and will take place a week after the Canadian Grand Prix.

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Joe Saward has suggested that there could be the option for 23 races under the new Concorde Agreement.

Would be slightly odd, as out of the 20 likely for 2013, there's a few in financial trouble.

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23... that's a lot. A big strain on the teams and their families.

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23 races would be disastrous for DTM, WTCC, MotoGP, Superbike etc.
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phil1993 wrote:
Joe Saward has suggested that there could be the option for 23 races under the new Concorde Agreement.

Would be slightly odd, as out of the 20 likely for 2013, there's a few in financial trouble.


23 would be good. Two in USA isn't there? Then Canada.

Personally heres my ideal calendar and roughly how it should go;

Australia
Bahrain
China
Japan- Suzuka
Japan- Fuji
Malaysia
Singapore
Korea
Brazil
USA
Canada
Spain
Belgium
Turkey
Imola
UK- silverstone
UK- Donnington park
Italy
Germany- Hockenheim
European GP- Nurburgrung
Hungary
Austria
France


Id do the calender so you go from one end to the world, to the other. So start in australia, all through the east, through europe and then fly to the west for the last races in america/canada/brazil. Logistical sense personally. Yeah the weather could be an issue, but tough. get on with it.

I do desperatly want Imola back. but then the other part of me would not be able to stomach the 'lewis finally drivers at imola/goes and stares at the wall he crashed/visits the statue etc' bollocks that Sky/BBC will absolutly white moustache over the TV.
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Bernie Ecclestone on Inside F1 discussing the calendar.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18565749

Funny how he begins asking Lee McKenzie questions pretty quickly. :lol:

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This is not actually the problem you're talking about, but in my opinion there is already too much races and 23 doesnt sound good at all. 16 was good, 18 allright.
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PostPosted: 28 Jun 2012, 13:25  
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London GP proposed.
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Won't happen.

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PostPosted: 28 Jun 2012, 18:11  
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That was a Santander promotion initially, a fantasy thing. But Bernie has taken an interest in it apparently. The accompanying article to that picture is worth reading. Bernie is talking serious, he has offered to pay the hosting fee and promote the race himself. If that offer were genuine it could be too good for Boris to turn town. As Bernie says, it would be better fort he city than the Olympics. However, that graphic you posted was in today's Times. Flick on a few pages and you have the Ecclestone banker bribe story. A nice way to move attention away from that...

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I will be surprised if any of this will happen.

If I remember correctly similar plans were mentioned back in 2004 when the cars came to London for an exhibition event.

This is another PR exercise before this years British GP! For once the media cannot talk about Silverstone surving/another track taking over because they now have a long contract.

They have decided to make up other c**p before the race.
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