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Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 28 May 2012, 08:44
by f1freak
If he is going to perform as consistent as he did in Monaco then he has a chance. But considering Monaco is not a proper track the weakness of the car cannot be seen there. Once Ferrari goes on traditional circuits like Canada, Silverstone & Germany then we can get a nice comparision.

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 28 May 2012, 11:10
by mikhailv
f1freak wrote:If he is going to perform as consistent as he did in Monaco then he has a chance. But considering Monaco is not a proper track the weakness of the car cannot be seen there. Once Ferrari goes on traditional circuits like Canada, Silverstone & Germany then we can get a nice comparision.
So then its more so on the driver and Massa proved it. Odd statement really, when its clearly a drivers track, car defficiencies can be overcome by brilliant driving which, Massa wholeheartedly did. Its whether his form can continue and I believe it can.

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 28 May 2012, 15:38
by f1freak
mikhailv wrote:
f1freak wrote:If he is going to perform as consistent as he did in Monaco then he has a chance. But considering Monaco is not a proper track the weakness of the car cannot be seen there. Once Ferrari goes on traditional circuits like Canada, Silverstone & Germany then we can get a nice comparision.
So then its more so on the driver and Massa proved it. Odd statement really, when its clearly a drivers track, car defficiencies can be overcome by brilliant driving which, Massa wholeheartedly did. Its whether his form can continue and I believe it can.
Agreed that it's a drivers track and Massa drove well, but I feel that this result was achieved under special circumstances. The McLarens struggled, Lotus were off pace so I feel that he had luck on his side. The races ahead will show the true picture and I am pretty sure Ferrari has not turned on a Magic Switch to give a competitive car to Massa & so is the case with Massa himself. What Fernando is doing is truly exceptional from the same machinery.

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 28 May 2012, 15:59
by reppo
Massa was 5.2 seconds behind Alonso, 4.8 sec behind Vettel, 2 sec behind Hamilton 35.4 sec ahead of the train of di Resta where was also Hulkenberg, Räikkönen and Senna. So he wasn't so much out of pace when compared to Alonso, who could have pushed a little harder if necessary. It wasn't so exceptionally much better with the same hardware. It depends on how and to what you compare. Massa did very well; much better than before in this season.

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 29 May 2012, 10:59
by mikhailv
Omegablue wrote:
tderias wrote:I don't mind Sutil or Perez, but I agree with Mikhail, Paul Di Resta has only proved he is an average driver, capable of beating his teammate... nothing more, nothing special.
What can he do with the Force India machine? Last year and already this year he's consistently in the points. Has had some impressive top six finishes, but he isn't driving a Red Bull.

Take away Malaysia and what has Perez done? Eventhough I do rate Perez superior to Di Resta, I'm just saying it's not kind to highlight a driver in a midfield car just by one good race.
Well, sutil beat him into submission last year scoring double Di Resta's points.

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 17:16
by phil1993

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 18:36
by donald29
People keep saying 'his pace has improved in recent races' but his pace hasn't been far off Alonso since China. It's mistakes, such as spinning in Canada and messing up qualifying then hitting a Toro Rosso in Germany, that have been the problem.

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 20:47
by tderias
Sergio Perez looks the closest to take it. Though, I wouldn't write off Nico Hulkenberg. He's silently been focusing on the driving and is regarded by many as World Champion material. Di Resta for me is definitely not on the cards. I think he's destined to go to Mercedes once a seat opens up. I also think he fits well into the their corporate culture...

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 06:19
by mikhailv
What about Heidfeld for a year? Sounds silly but id take him for a year. get him testing and slot him into the last race or 2 i say

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 09:50
by donald29
He might not do badly for a year but I can't see Ferrari signing him. As much as I like him and would like to see that happen even as a number two.

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 11:47
by iceman1
What about Fisichella? :p

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 15:41
by donald29
Is he still reserve driver?

Alonso Fisichella worked well before didn't it? :p

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 15:46
by phil1993
No. Their reserve driver is... Davide Rigon.

Although that's only because Jules Bianchi is officially listed at Force India. He's still effectively Ferrari's reserve.

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 17:51
by donald29
Hmmm if needed in the event of something happening to Alonso / Massa Bianchi might do ok. Was wondering if they'd learnt from 2009 when their options were crippled Schumacher or Badoer. :p

Re: The future of Ferrari's #2?

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 18:49
by dimitris
If I had $20 to put on any driver, I'd put it on Kovalainen. Very impressive in a poor car for a 2 or 3 seasons now. He has the experience. He's stable and will perform consistently. Ferrari already have consistency in Massa - unfortunately that's consistently bad.

I expect Kovalainen to get a 1 year contract with an option for an extra year. (That option depending on Perez' development in 2013.)

2013 onwards will be the beginning of an Alonso-Perez partnership that will be tough to beat.