2011-12 Silly Season

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by phil1993 » 04 Jan 2012, 11:46

Vettel has always been Red Bull backed, except they loaned him to BMW. Kubica was part of Renault's young scheme but was let go. BMW really stuffed up Kubica though when you think of 2008.

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Post by iceman1 » 04 Jan 2012, 13:50

"A team source said the AT&T deal had not been ‘sustainable’ at the existing level and Williams were now in advanced negotiations with another telecommunications company for the title sponsorship. No details were given."


Phil wrote on the website
Another possible reason for the split could be to make way for Embratel, who are heavily involved with Bruno Senna’s career. The Brazilian, 28, is out of contract after racing for Renault in the last half of 2011.


So no QNB? and now it's Senna who's close to the 2nd seat? It's so confusing :roll::

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by frubbs » 04 Jan 2012, 17:27

Embratel Williams Grand Prix sounds soooo good to my brazilian ears!! :lol:
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Post by frubbs » 05 Jan 2012, 13:24

Is RBR thinking about Buemi for 2nd driver in 2013, since Webber may retire ?
Or they just needed to fullfill the 3rd driver role ?
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Post by iceman1 » 05 Jan 2012, 14:08

frubbs wrote:Is RBR thinking about Buemi for 2nd driver in 2013, since Webber may retire ?
Or they just needed to fullfill the 3rd driver role ?

+ Buemi will also be Toro Rosso's reserve driver.

I guess if Webber doesn't perform well in 2012, they'll replace him with Buemi.

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by Treacle » 05 Jan 2012, 15:17

I thought that Alguersuari showed more potential... In the second half of the season he was making progress from race to race. However, I may be biased.
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Post by frubbs » 05 Jan 2012, 16:01

Treacle wrote:I thought that Alguersuari showed more potential...


i agree.
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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by donald29 » 05 Jan 2012, 16:08

I can't see Horner ever putting Buemi in a Red Bull race seat. But it's no surprise he's got this role within the Red Bull stable as Marko is said to like Buemi on a personal level.

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Post by phil1993 » 05 Jan 2012, 17:26

It's a logical decision. They don't want to upset the Vergne/Ricciardo battle at STR in case one of the Red Bull duo is unable to race. Buemi is a safe pair of hands who they know from several years of association with him.

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by reppo » 07 Jan 2012, 13:41

donald29 wrote:I can't see Horner ever putting Buemi in a Red Bull race seat. But it's no surprise he's got this role within the Red Bull stable as Marko is said to like Buemi on a personal level.

Neither can I. Buemi is dreaming on getting a RBR race seat in 2013 if Webber retires or does not get a deal with RBR. It is better to be a reserve driver in a top team than on the track in a bad team and prove his skills in simulator he said to Le Matin news paper according MTV3.
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtml/2012/01/1472497/buemi-haaveilee-webberin-paikasta
Alguersuari would have been a better choice than Buemi but Marko doesn't like drives arguing back to him and Jaime had no future in RBR. It's like a warning to STR drivers to always let Red Bull pass. #Fear

Is Alguersuari now going to HRT or what is he going to do?

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by reppo » 08 Jan 2012, 12:29

Now Alguersuari wants to become a third driver

Alguersuari 'says no' to HRT
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/17584/7418089/Alguersuari-says-no-to-HRT
Jaime Alguersuari has reportedly turned down an offer to drive for HRT this year, saying it would be a backward step.

The Spaniard was left without a Formula One race-seat after being dropped by Toro Rosso in a move that shocked many in the F1 community, including the driver himself.

Alguersuari's axing immediately sparked rumours that Spanish team HRT could be his next destination as he bids to remain in the sport.

However, according to Spanish daily AS, Alguersuari has "definitely" ruled out HRT as it is "considered a step backwards in his career."

Alguersuari is instead looking to become a third driver with one of the top teams with McLaren-Mercedes named in the article.

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by Adam » 08 Jan 2012, 14:36

Being a 3rd driver wasn't that bad for Hulkenberg, I agree going to HRT would not only be a step backwards but also would hurt his career...

I just hope that It's Mercedes where he ends up going as McLaren seems to have all the seats shut tight and sealed for some years to come.

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by reppo » 08 Jan 2012, 17:09

Adam wrote:Being a 3rd driver wasn't that bad for Hulkenberg, I agree going to HRT would not only be a step backwards but also would hurt his career...

I just hope that It's Mercedes where he ends up going as McLaren seems to have all the seats shut tight and sealed for some years to come.

Yes, Hulkenberg was twice a test driver, first in Williams and then in Force India. In both teams he got the race seat. Not too bad. I agree about HRT. It is undergoing so many changes that nobody knows how good or bad they will be this year.

Mercedes could be a good choice for Alguersuari assuming Schumacher will retire. Even better choice than being a third driver in RBR. If Vergne turns out to be good in races it doesn't matter how good Buemi is in simulator. Again assuming Webber would retire.

Sometimes going back to GP2 might be a better choice than staying in F1on any seat on any cost. Didn't hurt Grosjean. Shining in GP2 might be better than shining in simulator.

Now there are two seats left if Senna's deal is not confirmed. HRT seems to be a place to avoid and Barrichello, Senna or Sutil are competing for Williams' second seat. Some simulator seats are open. If Ferrari doesn't want more test/third/reserve/consultant drivers the rest can get Xbox or Playstation and simulate with it :n

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by phil1993 » 08 Jan 2012, 17:21

Jaime's best option would be McLaren or Force India. There is no guarantee that Schumacher will retire. Even if he does, Mercedes will promote Paul di Resta.

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Re: 2011-12 Silly Season

Post by reppo » 08 Jan 2012, 19:37

Well. It doesn't look good for Buemi to be a third driver in RBR either:
Marko: Ex-Toro Rosso duo "were not winners"
http://www.racer.com/marko-ex-toro-rosso-duo-were-not-winners/article/222262/
"We haven't seen in them any possibility of growth. Both are worthy of grand prix racing, but for us that's not enough: we need winners."

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