Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
He looks like he's just found 5p on the floor and is like "Yay!!! 5p!!!"
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
So nothing has changed even after Jean Todt is president.
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But the both championships not have them and that is maters most fo me!Wolfie wrote:Saddest thing is that Ferrari has managed to change the rulebook to their liking this season now that even the team order -rules is probably going to be changed.harrisv48 wrote:Fia is h**** of Ferrari
Somebody should soon start counting how many rules have been changed this season
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Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
Fine, if the FIA won't get them then karma will.
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Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
What is r people laughing instead punish … Get out of hear you want to be a decent … what is grafikotites!!! The Championship is only one team …!!! It will not take at least for this year!
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
I guess Team orders can now be heard from all the teams.
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...as always (*cough* Istanbul *cough*)iceman1 wrote:I guess Team orders can now be heard from all the teams.
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
Instructing one driver to hold position is different to informing one to let the other through
Apparently FIA considered 5s penalty for Alonso (drop to P2) but decided against it.
Apparently FIA considered 5s penalty for Alonso (drop to P2) but decided against it.
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
But telling you to slow down or telling you to slow down because your teammate won't overtake you anyway when he actually will... whatever, finally a sensible decision by FIA, one of the first ones this season.phil1993 wrote:Instructing one driver to hold position is different to informing one to let the other through
Apparently FIA considered 5s penalty for Alonso (drop to P2) but decided against it.
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
But Turkey was a different case - they'd already seen RBR throw it off the road and it was a sensible decision - what if Jenson really was low on fuel, after all, the top 4 were very fast that day and were obviously burning more fuel than expected. Alonso's gesticulations and comments 'guys, this is ridiculous' indicates how Ferrari pandered to him and breached the rule. Whether you agree with the rule or not, it is an FIA rule and was broken. Hamilton lied to the stewards and got DQ-ed and McLaren were racing under a suspended ban until China this year - he broke the rules and paid the penalty. So did Ferrari but they escaped.Baboy wrote:But telling you to slow down or telling you to slow down because your teammate won't overtake you anyway when he actually will... whatever, finally a sensible decision by FIA, one of the first ones this season.phil1993 wrote:Instructing one driver to hold position is different to informing one to let the other through
Apparently FIA considered 5s penalty for Alonso (drop to P2) but decided against it.
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
Ferrari WAS penalized, for the first time someone gets any penalty for this particular rule when we had all kind of team orders these years. That's already a lot, too much compared to other cases.phil1993 wrote:But Turkey was a different case - they'd already seen RBR throw it off the road and it was a sensible decision - what if Jenson really was low on fuel, after all, the top 4 were very fast that day and were obviously burning more fuel than expected. Alonso's gesticulations and comments 'guys, this is ridiculous' indicates how Ferrari pandered to him and breached the rule. Whether you agree with the rule or not, it is an FIA rule and was broken. Hamilton lied to the stewards and got DQ-ed and McLaren were racing under a suspended ban until China this year - he broke the rules and paid the penalty. So did Ferrari but they escaped.Baboy wrote:But telling you to slow down or telling you to slow down because your teammate won't overtake you anyway when he actually will... whatever, finally a sensible decision by FIA, one of the first ones this season.phil1993 wrote:Instructing one driver to hold position is different to informing one to let the other through
Apparently FIA considered 5s penalty for Alonso (drop to P2) but decided against it.
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Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
Ok, I guess team orders are perfectly legal now. Look for Button to yield to Hamilton and Rosberg to yield to Schumacher.
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Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
By penalized you mean they were asked to root around in their pockets for some spare change, sure.Baboy wrote:Ferrari WAS penalized, for the first time someone gets any penalty for this particular rule when we had all kind of team orders these years. That's already a lot, too much compared to other cases.phil1993 wrote:But Turkey was a different case - they'd already seen RBR throw it off the road and it was a sensible decision - what if Jenson really was low on fuel, after all, the top 4 were very fast that day and were obviously burning more fuel than expected. Alonso's gesticulations and comments 'guys, this is ridiculous' indicates how Ferrari pandered to him and breached the rule. Whether you agree with the rule or not, it is an FIA rule and was broken. Hamilton lied to the stewards and got DQ-ed and McLaren were racing under a suspended ban until China this year - he broke the rules and paid the penalty. So did Ferrari but they escaped.Baboy wrote:But telling you to slow down or telling you to slow down because your teammate won't overtake you anyway when he actually will... whatever, finally a sensible decision by FIA, one of the first ones this season.phil1993 wrote:Instructing one driver to hold position is different to informing one to let the other through
Apparently FIA considered 5s penalty for Alonso (drop to P2) but decided against it.
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
Officially confirmed: Ferrari escape.
"On 25 July 2010, at the Grand Prix of Germany, the stewards of the meeting found an infringement by the Scuderia Ferrari to the prohibition of team orders interfering with a race result and then decided to impose a fine of $100,000 and to forward the dossier to the World Motor Sport Council for further consideration.
"The Judging Body of the World Motor Sport Council held an extraordinary hearing in Paris on September 8, 2010 to examine this matter.
"After an in depth analysis of all reports, statements and documents submitted, the judging body has decided to confirm the stewards' decision of a $100,000 fine for infringing article 39.1 of the sporting regulations and to impose the payment of the costs incurred by the FIA."
Furthermore, the FIA announced that Formula 1's thinktank, the Sporting Working Group, would be asked to look into the team orders ban.
The statement added: "The judging body has also acknowledged that article 39.1 of the sporting regulations should be reviewed and has decided to refer this question to the Formula 1 Sporting Working Group."
Ferrari welcomed the decision of the FIA – and made it clear that its focus was now on delivering a strong result at this weekend's Italian Grand Prix to help boost its world championship challenge.
"Ferrari has taken note of the decision of the FIA World Council, relating to the outcome of this year's German Grand Prix and wishes to express its appreciation of the Council's proposal to review article 39.1 of the Formula 1 sporting regulations, in light of what emerged during today's discussions," said a statement from the Maranello team.
"Now, all the team's efforts will be focussed on the next event on track, when the Italian Grand Prix takes place at Monza this weekend."
The FIA will release a full explanation of its decision on Thursday.
Re: Ferrari escape further punishment - WMSC decision
I would love to see a other team giving exactly the same orders, using exactly the same words (xxx is faster than u.... can u confirm...) in one of the next races.