2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

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Re: 2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

Post by KevC » 06 Feb 2011, 17:59

Reporting now it's his right arm/leg/hand not the left.

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Post by phil1993 » 06 Feb 2011, 18:24

David Croft: Have spoken to Eric Boullier who says Robert lost a lot of blood in his hand but ruled out amputation. Operation has gone well so far though

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Re: 2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

Post by mclarenmatt » 06 Feb 2011, 18:32

http://tinyurl.com/6ey5opt

Notice the hole in the chassis on the right hand side where the barrier went through ...

He is lucky to be alive! Let's hope he has a speedy recovery.

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Post by phil1993 » 06 Feb 2011, 18:35

19:15 ALONSO AT CLINIC FOR KUBICA
Fernando Alonso came to the clinic in Pietra Ligure, where he was admitted Robert Kubica. The Ferrari driver has had with the doctors asking about the conditions of his colleague.

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Re: 2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

Post by KevC » 06 Feb 2011, 18:46

Renault have confirmed that Kubica's hand will not be amputated and that it's unlikely he will be fit for Bahrain. #F1

Kubica is currently still in surgery. Whether he can actually regain use of his hand is unknown, and will not be determined immediately. #F1

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Post by phil1993 » 06 Feb 2011, 19:24

Spanish F1 journo says LRGP contacted Heidfeld & de La Rosa already

Pastor Maldonado: Hopefully a quick recovery Kubica, we wish you well and we are with you ...
7 minutes ago by Pastor Maldonado

LucasdiGrassi: All my best wishes to my old friend Robert. Recover well and fast. #positivethinking
8 minutes ago by Lucas di Grassi

NickHeidfeld: Dear Robert, after the shocking news my thoughts are with you. Get well soon. Nick
about 1 hour ago by Nick Heidfeld

H_Kovalainen: All thoughts on Kubica tonight, hes a great guy lets hope operations go well and he makes full recovery...
about 2 hours ago by Heikki Kovalainen

JensonButton: Shocking news about Robert Kubica.. I wish him a speedy recovery.
about 2 hours ago by Jenson Button

Vitaly Petrov: I am shocked by the message of the accident, Robert. I wish him a speedy recovery and return behind the wheel. Robert, look out!
about 2 hours ago by Vitaly Petrov

tonyfernandes My best wishes to robert kubica. Great guy and super driver. Hope for a speedy recovery
about 1 hour ago by Tony Fernandes

OfficialMGP #F1 The team would like to wish a speedy recovery to Robert Kubica. Get well soon Robert.
about 3 hours ago by MERCEDES GP PETRONAS

BMWMotorsport: Following Robert Kubica's bad accident, the thoughts of everyone at BMW Motorsport are with the Polish driver....
36 minutes ago by BMW Motorsport

WilliamsF1Team: @OfficialLRGP best wishes to Robert from everyone here for a speedy recovery...
about 7 hours ago by Williams F1

MarussiaVirginExactly, best wishes from us all here RT @tabathavalls: I really hope Robert is ok, best wishes! @OfficialLRGP
about 7 hours ago by MarussiaVirginRacing

ScarbsF1: Sickened to hear the news of kubicas rally accident. Lets hope rumours of his condition are exaggerated. Heres to a full and speedy recovery
about 2 hours ago by Craig Scarborough

NobleF1: There are days when my job is amazing, and days when it can be pretty depressing. Thoughts tonight very much with Kubica. #getwellsoonrobert
about 2 hours ago by Jon Noble

legardj: If any F1 driver is tough enough to win a battle for fitness, it's Robert Kubica. Thoughts are with him
about 1 hour ago by Jonathan Legard

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Post by swca92 » 06 Feb 2011, 19:46

Here's my take on the candidates who spring to mind as replacements for the oh so infortunate Robert Kubica

Fairuz Fauzy - He's useless. Fans of football will remember how the son of Libyan leader Colonel Gadaffi signed with several Serie A clubs because his Dad was rich. The fact he had the footballing talent of a sunday league footballer was sen as irrelevant. Faizy has progressed through money alone, and would rival Luca Badoer in terms of performance.

Romain Grosjean - If Renault has any of its French soul left, they'd plump for the talented Grosjean. But Grosjean, for all his talent, has performed scruffily in an ever weakening GP2 and at Renault performed worse than Nelson Piquet in 2009 under admittedly tough circumstances. His propensity for spins and crashes means that a team of Petrov and Grosjean would bankrupt the team with repair bills. Unlikely to happen.

Bruno Senna - If Renault want to plump for a guy to attract the sponsors, this is the man they'll sign. Difficult to gauge his performances in 2010, but the fact he was comfortably beaten by Christian Klien will not have impressed future employers. Nonetheless his F1 experience and surname make him a plausible candidate.

Tonio Liuzzi - Performed solidly if underwhelmingly at Force India last year, his record in junior formula is outstanding and this has meant his solid F1 career has appeared disappointing by comparison. He would be a solid choice who can be mostly trusted to bring a car home, and has the benefit of being currently unemployed.

Nico Hulkenburg - Unlucky to be sacked from Williams after an admittedly patchy 2010 season, though his qualifying lap in Brazil showed his talent. Got all the credentials to be a F1 star, and has in Willi Weber the premier agent in F1. Whether Hulkenburg decides to test for Mercedes and hope Schumi retires, or decides to go for the race drive at Renault remains to be seen.

Nick Heidfeld - You know what you get with Nick (on the track at least). He's displayed solid pace and a lot of consistency in his career, though never the luck or blinding speed needed to win GP's. Outpaced by Kobayashi at Sauber, he still performed solidly having had not testing with the car. Probably the favourite for the drive, and certainly the most solid and predictable candidate.

Pedro de la Rosa - Sacked mid-season at Sauber after being out-performed by Kobayashi, he can be trusted to bring a car home but won't do so with much speed. At age 40, it would be remarkable to see him back in F1. Can't see it myself, though does bring lots of Spanish sponsors.

Get well soon Robert.

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Post by phil1993 » 06 Feb 2011, 19:52

Morelli says Kubica will make a full recovery - 6 months at the earliest. That's the Belgian GP.

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Post by phil1993 » 06 Feb 2011, 20:48

Kubica recovery will take a year

"We have to wait at least a week to see if his hand survives. " This is the first comment of Professor Igor Rossello after the operation that led right limb of Robert Kubica Hospital Santa Corona. At best, the twenty-six pilot Lotus Renault will again use his right arm only in one year. The limb has undergone a delicate operation to implant bone reconstruction, and reconnection of tissue vascularization.

The operation lasted over seven hours, performed by the team of Professor Rossello, a specialist in hand surgery center of San Paolo di Savona. In the operating room even Dr. Riccardo Ceccarelli, the team doctor of Kubica. The motorist will remain in hospital in Pietra Ligure long, presumably, while the prognosis remains reserved for a week. In the coming days the doctors will assess the conditions of vascularization of the hand and right arm of the runner

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Re: 2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

Post by alex1369 » 06 Feb 2011, 21:36

Get well soon KUB, i hope i will see you in Belgium

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Re: 2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

Post by mclarenmatt » 06 Feb 2011, 22:40

Kubica could be sidelined for 2011.

Robert Kubica could be out of action for the whole of the 2011 Formula 1 season as a result of the serious injuries he sustained in his rally crash on Sunday, medical staff have said.

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Post by Denorth » 06 Feb 2011, 22:53

suddenly Renault is with potentially good car and in a very crappy position lacking top-driver. not something they wanted to fight in the season. poor Kubica
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Post by KevC » 06 Feb 2011, 22:55

mclarenmatt wrote:Kubica could be sidelined for 2011.

Robert Kubica could be out of action for the whole of the 2011 Formula 1 season as a result of the serious injuries he sustained in his rally crash on Sunday, medical staff have said.

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I'll be amazed if he's back in the car this season.

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Re: 2011 Formula 1 Season - Official Discussion Thread

Post by François » 07 Feb 2011, 00:16

Terrible, terrible news. I'm relieved that he's out of danger, but it seems like tough times lie ahead... I'm no hand specialist, so I can only wish and hope that the speed and wholeness of his recovery even blows away Pr. Rossello, who I don't doubt for a second took the best possible care of his patient.

As for the Captain Hindsight wannabes criticizing him and Renault for allowing that to happen in the first place, please make some sense. Firstly, 2010 was probably the season where Kubica delivered his best driving thus far, and you can't put that down to sheer ability: he's clearly been very happy at Renault, and the fact they didn't make a fuss about his rallies has definitely played a part. Secondly, even though there's no denying that rallying *is* dangerous, there's a lot of other ways to injure yourself! Just remember how Mark Webber nearly missed the start of 2009 due to a mountain bike fall. It only takes a bit of bad luck: even something as commonplace (sadly) as a road accident can cause worse injuries than Robert's, it's actually much easier to hurt yourself this way since the safety standards for rally cars are very high. F1 drivers are human beings, fitter than the norm but as vulnerable as you and me; they are also grown men, capable of making their own decisions and knowing what is best for them. So don't be too harsh with Robert and Renault, it's all too easy to judge things in hindsight.
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