Are Red Bull really as fast as we're making them out to be?

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Are Red Bull really as fast as we're making them out to be?

Post by phil1993 » 17 May 2010, 15:05

Okay, so six poles out of six, but if you look at the data, they seem to pull it out of the bag in Q3 rather than Q1 & Q2. Which begs the question, are they as fast over one lap as we're making them out to be or are others not maximising their potential in Q3.

Q1 Monaco
1. F. Massa 1:14.757
2. M. Webber 1:15.035
4. S. Vettel 1:15.110

Q2 Monaco
1. N. Rosberg 1:14.375
3. M. Webber 1:14.462
6. S. Vettel 1:14.568

Q1 China
1. L. Hamilton 1:35.641
2. M. Webber 1:35.978
7. S. Vettel 1:36.317

Q2 China
1. L. Hamilton 1:34.928
2. M. Webber 1:35.100
5. S. Vettel 1:35.280

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Post by sdutt » 17 May 2010, 15:16

No, i think RB are still quicker. It is just that they are doing what is required to get into Q3. As all (pr most) tracks, Q3 times are quickest
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Post by jianh » 17 May 2010, 15:37

I second sdutt
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Post by Zack » 17 May 2010, 15:44

As Lewis said .. "The Red Bull is ridiculously faster than anyone else's car".
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Post by Tom Vandenhove » 17 May 2010, 17:08

Red Bull gives you wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiings :zz:

I still find it awesome that -as Martin Brundle said on the BBC F1 Forum yesterday- an energy drink manufacturer beats the Ferrari's and the McLaren's. A team without any motorsports history. Thumbs up for that, Dietrich Mateschitz.

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Post by JoostLamers » 17 May 2010, 21:21

Hamilton should have got the pole in China, but for some reason his car didn't work in Q3, which was a really big shame.

I agree with Zack. I think Newey has built a super car from the beginning this year, not just the last second half of the season like 09. Just like Hamilton says: "I'm praying every day that we're going to beat them once."
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Post by sdutt » 18 May 2010, 01:06

JoostLamers wrote: "I'm praying every day that we're going to beat them once."
I am sure that you too are doing the same Joost :n :lol:
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Post by Zack » 18 May 2010, 05:16

Unlike last year ... secret of speed/downforce is mystery this year. Dynamic suspension was bad joke and probably created to confuse other teams, enough time wasted on it :lol:

To me top5 order at the moment seems to be :
RBR (kudos to Newey)
Mclaren (thanks to F-duct)
Ferrari ~ Renault (not sure)
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Post by syncmaster » 18 May 2010, 06:42

Red Bull has really done their home work over the winter
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Post by R.? » 18 May 2010, 12:13

Red Bull Racing is really, really fast. Their car is mighty through the fat corners. I think Webber could have gone much faster in Spain and Monaco. About the quali, I think Red Bull sets times to get them through Q1 and Q2. Why should they be so fast when it doesn't matter? They are fast when they need it to be, in Q1, the pole position shoot out. And in the race.

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Post by JoostLamers » 18 May 2010, 13:40

Zack wrote:Unlike last year ... secret of speed/downforce is mystery this year. Dynamic suspension was bad joke and probably created to confuse other teams, enough time wasted on it :lol:
Isn't that already clear? It's the exhaust who's doing it
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Post by alex1369 » 18 May 2010, 14:42

yes they are fast, 6 races 6 pole positions, mclaren shouldnt never give adrian newey away, they could be now leading the championship

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Post by JoostLamers » 18 May 2010, 19:07

alex1369 wrote:yes they are fast, 6 races 6 pole positions, mclaren shouldnt never give adrian newey away, they could be now leading the championship
Red Bull have more money than McLaren, Newey choose the money :zz:
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Post by iceman1 » 18 May 2010, 21:29

I found out why RBR car is very fast
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Post by R.? » 19 May 2010, 10:19

iceman1 wrote:I found out why RBR car is very fast
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Would that be the reason? I thought all racing cars are female. For sure Hamilton and Vettel refer to their cars as female.

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