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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by iceman1 » 21 Sep 2009, 16:36

From Grandprix.com

Punishing the men rather than the team would go against the rule of collective responsibility that exist in the FIA International Sporting Code which states that "the entrant shall be responsible for all acts or omissions on the part of their driver, mechanic and passengers, each equally responsible for any breach of this code". This may be ignored on this occasion. In the past the FIA has let the Benetton team (the current Renault team before it was sold to the French company) off a cheating charge, ruling that illegal modifications were made by "a junior employee", however a year after that judgement Toyota's rally team was thrown out of the WRC for 12 months after the same defence was rejected.

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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by Tom Vandenhove » 21 Sep 2009, 16:42

So Briatore is immediately banned from F1 ? Or at the end of this season ... And who will be renault's next teamboss ?

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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by hannibal_rising » 21 Sep 2009, 16:50

Tom Vandenhove wrote:And who will be renault's next teamboss ?



Piquet Sr. :lol: :lol: :wave:

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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by iceman1 » 21 Sep 2009, 17:00

Tom Vandenhove wrote:So Briatore is immediately banned from F1 ? Or at the end of this season ... And who will be renault's next teamboss ?


* Alain Prost - 4-times world champion, who ran his own team in the late '90s.
* Frédéric Vasseur - boss of the very successful ART Grand Prix team in GP2 and F3 Euroseries
* Nicolas Todt - also a boss of the ART Grand Prix Team, manager of Felipe Massa, and son of Jean Todt
* Bernard Rey, President of the Renault F1 team & CEO of Renault Motorsport
* Rob White, Deputy Managing Director (Engine) within Renault F1
* Bob Bell - Techincal Director, Renault F1
* Somebody else from within Renault (F1 Team or parent car company)
* Somebody else from another F1 team

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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by Totopupu » 21 Sep 2009, 17:05

Poor briatore...
Jean Todt, Ross Brawn, Rory Byrne, Michael Schumacher = DREAM TEAM

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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by megasyxx » 21 Sep 2009, 17:20

that's what you call a forced retirement..... :D
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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by Tom Vandenhove » 21 Sep 2009, 17:21

iceman1 wrote:
Tom Vandenhove wrote:So Briatore is immediately banned from F1 ? Or at the end of this season ... And who will be renault's next teamboss ?


* Alain Prost - 4-times world champion, who ran his own team in the late '90s.
* Frédéric Vasseur - boss of the very successful ART Grand Prix team in GP2 and F3 Euroseries
* Nicolas Todt - also a boss of the ART Grand Prix Team, manager of Felipe Massa, and son of Jean Todt
* Bernard Rey, President of the Renault F1 team & CEO of Renault Motorsport
* Rob White, Deputy Managing Director (Engine) within Renault F1
* Bob Bell - Techincal Director, Renault F1
* Somebody else from within Renault (F1 Team or parent car company)
* Somebody else from another F1 team

Don't forget David Richards. Anyway, thanks for this

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Post by phil1993 » 21 Sep 2009, 17:33

Mattzel went to the Nurburgring yesterday: this picture = epic win

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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by metalhead188 » 21 Sep 2009, 17:33

Piquet should be banned for life too... best part is until his contract ends he can't race in F1

i expect prodrive to try and buy into the team... it makes for a fresh start/new beginning/ the price will be very cheap at least for the next 2 years

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Post by Tom Vandenhove » 21 Sep 2009, 17:45

phil1993 wrote:Mattzel went to the Nurburgring yesterday: this picture = epic win

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/ ... nelson.jpg


I loled very hard :lol:

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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by phil1993 » 21 Sep 2009, 18:20

Football League Association to look at Briatore

The Football League has asked Formula 1's governing body the FIA for more details of Flavio Briatore's ban.

The Queens Park Rangers co-owner and ex-Renault team boss has been suspended indefinitely from FIA-sanctioned events over the F1 race-fixing scandal.
According to Football League rules, nobody can be a director or hold a majority interest in a club if they are banned from a sport's governing body.
The league said it will consider its position once the FIA has replied.
The 59-year-old Italian left his post as Renault team principal last week, along with executive director of engineering Pat Symonds, after the team decided not to contest FIA charges of fixing the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
The charges were brought after Nelson Piquet Jr claimed he had been asked to crash in order to help team-mate Fernando Alonso.
At a World Motor Sport Council hearing on Monday, Briatore was banned with the FIA adding that it would not grant a licence to any team he was involved with or renew an F1 Superlicence granted to any driver associated with him.
Briatore is co-owner of QPR along with F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone and steel magnate Lakshmi Mittal.
He is also chairman of the holding company that owns the club and a director on the board of the Championship side.
The Loftus Road club have refused to comment on the FIA's findings

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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by HandoZiZle » 21 Sep 2009, 18:22

I have a feeling that Bob Bell will be the team principal. Briatore will be out of money now because he manages Alonso, Webber, Grojeian, and others. Not to mention his football team is going to look very shady being run by a cheater.



^^^^^^Ahhhh, you beat me to it lol.
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Post by blizzard » 21 Sep 2009, 18:27

Fair decision to make it only a suspended penalty for Renault. McLaren got away with equal things, so fair judgement by the FIA.
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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by Zack » 21 Sep 2009, 19:10

HandoZiZle wrote:I have a feeling that Bob Bell will be the team principal. Briatore will be out of money now because he manages Alonso, Webber, Grojeian, and others. Not to mention his football team is going to look very shady being run by a cheater.

Briatore is hell rich :zz: He won't have any probs :zz:

Regarding Loftus Road club, all he needs to do is step down from chairman & directors position :zz:

Banning Flavio good for the sports but not commercially :zz:
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Re: Renault Race Fixing - *Briatore, Symonds leave*

Post by swca92 » 21 Sep 2009, 20:23

Briatore is loaded, money is the least of his problems. Also I doubt there will be a problem with QPR, they let an ex head of Thailand with a disgraceful human rights record run Manchester City so I don't think they'll ban Briatore from football. On the punishment it really isn't harsh enough, a fine should be imposed, perhaps fining them the amount they got in prize money from Singapore would be more fair. Also he'll probably sell his share of managing the drivers to someone else.

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