What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

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What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

A simple roof encompassing the driver's head
5
21%
Larger escape roads eliminating tyre barrier use
4
17%
Making wheel tethers more robust
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54%
Other (Please state in the discussion)
2
8%
 
Total votes: 24

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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by TwistedArmco » 24 Jul 2009, 15:12

Totopupu wrote:
AzShadow wrote:He probably meant where it would lead to if we took out the danger completely from F1. No matter what you do, as long as the cars drive fast, it will always be dangerous. And if they don't drive fast (ie not dangerous), then there wouldn't be a lot to watch. I'm sure the drivers know the risks involved but that's the life they've chosen.



Thanks! It's the perfect summary of my opinion


I think a little was lost in translation for the original comment, but I agree with your point. It's tragic that it happens, but it's going to happen at least every now and then. Remember Oli Bridewell? Killed in practice at Mallory Park in British Superbikes - I know there's a difference between single-seaters and bikes, a massive difference indeed, but it's still all about speed, and at racing speed, any incident with objects flying about is always going to be a danger to the driver, who has no real other option than to be in a quite vulnerable position.

I remember Paul Dana dying in 2006, and Tony Renna in 2003 both in Indycar, Ashley Cooper was a recent death in V8 Supercars in 2008, Mark Porter died at Bathurst in 2005. Remember Marco Campos? He was the last big single-seater death in Europe. Freak accidents are going to occue every now and then. There is no way to improve the chances of of there being no accidents, and no freak accidents. Make head protection as good as possible, and make tethers as strong as possible, and the drivers will have a better chance of surviving everyday accidents, but there's always some unfortunate incident that could kill a driver.
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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by megasyxx » 24 Jul 2009, 17:37

maybe put a cockpit cover similar to fighter planes, and put an a/c as well :D
although in an event of a cockpit fire/ smoke (like when kimi had a kers problem, smoke billowing out of the cockpit) the driver would be in trouble.
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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by sejtur » 24 Jul 2009, 17:47

I think it would look pretty cool to have such cockpits, but it would be really impractical.
I voted for better wheeltethers.
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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by megasyxx » 24 Jul 2009, 18:26

i guess so.....it will protect the driver, no doubt about that. but the problem would be the heat, or mist when it's raining.
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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by sejtur » 25 Jul 2009, 13:50

Okay, maybe we should have a new poll now... :(
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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by cheng.damien » 25 Jul 2009, 15:26

After the Peugeot win in the rain at Le Mans with the closed roof and in bad weather conditions, perhaps the closed roof option should be looked into as the risk of impact to head is greatly reduced.
For sure, some practical options should be made with the cockpit to facilitate the driver to get in and out of the car easily and quickly.

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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by phil1993 » 25 Jul 2009, 15:28

Possibly - the only problem is if something goes off in the car - like a fire extinguisher...

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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by sejtur » 25 Jul 2009, 15:35

phil1993 wrote:Possibly - the only problem is if something goes off in the car - like a fire extinguisher...


Well, they then should apply an ejector seat kind of system to the roof then. And hope it will not land on anybody's face/helmet...

Nah. This sounds bad from the beginning. :(
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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by megasyxx » 25 Jul 2009, 18:11

megasyxx wrote:maybe put a cockpit cover similar to fighter planes, and put an a/c as well :D
although in an event of a cockpit fire/ smoke (like when kimi had a kers problem, smoke billowing out of the cockpit) the driver would be in trouble.


now something like this would have prevented massa's accident.........
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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by Ferrariman60 » 26 Jul 2009, 02:51

I think impact tests for helmets will happen in the near future, but I think the fighter plane type canopies would be impractical because what happens if the car goes on fire and the driver for some reason cannot open the roof? I'd go for stronger wheel tethers. I know this wouldn't have stopped Massa's accident, but it's better than nothing.
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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by andrebires » 26 Jul 2009, 02:59

Something like this can help:

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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by cheng.damien » 26 Jul 2009, 11:45

Yes, there are practical problems for the closed roof which may not be resolved so easily.
However, internal fires are few and far between - most fires occur at the fuel intake, however internal smoke can be a big issue.

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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by megasyxx » 27 Jul 2009, 18:45

andrebires wrote:Something like this can help:

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Re: What could be done for the safety of drivers' head?

Post by phil1993 » 27 Jul 2009, 18:56

Noooooooooooooo nothing can be done. its hideous. sorry felipe but its the most unfortunate thing ever

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