Unfulfilled Breakaway Series Idea and FOTA-FIA War

This forum gives you a chance to be able to communicate with your fellow F1 fans.
Locked
anaconda
car driver
car driver
Posts: 22
Joined: 20 Jun 2007, 09:30

Unfulfilled Breakaway Series Idea and FOTA-FIA War

Post by anaconda » 18 Jun 2009, 23:03

BREAKING NEWS!!!
OMFG

Teams to launch breakaway series

Code: Select all

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76292


...so this is the end of FIA Formula 1 World Championship
looking forward!

User avatar
Liffonmelsmork
kart driver
kart driver
Posts: 94
Joined: 06 Apr 2008, 17:20
Location: England

Re: £40m Budget Cap and Controversies

Post by Liffonmelsmork » 18 Jun 2009, 23:28

Formula One will technically still exist though, won't it? Just nobody will watch it. Wonder what the new championship will be called.

User avatar
Ali
F1 Driver
F1 Driver
Posts: 2476
Joined: 07 Oct 2007, 21:13
Location: Istanbul
Contact:

Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by Ali » 18 Jun 2009, 23:47

FOTA teams to launch breakaway series
The Formula One Teams' Association announced on Thursday night that it is setting up a breakaway championship.

Following a four hour meeting at Renault's Enstone factory, the eight members of FOTA - Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, BMW Sauber, Toyota, Brawn, Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso - said they had grown frustrated with the FIA's stance against the organisation, and had no option but to create a series of their own.

"The teams cannot continue to compromise on the fundamental values of the sport and have declined to alter their original conditional entries to the 2010 World Championship," said a statement issued by FOTA after the meeting.

"These teams therefore have no alternative other than to commence the preparation for a new Championship which reflects the values of its participants and partners. This series will have transparent governance, one set of regulations, encourage more entrants and listen to the wishes of the fans, including offering lower prices for spectators worldwide, partners and other important stakeholders.

"The major drivers, stars, brands, sponsors, promoters and companies historically associated with the highest level of motorsport will all feature in this new series."


F1 teams were given until Friday evening to remove the conditions attached to the provisional entries they posted earlier this month, or risk being left off the grid in 2010.

FIA president Max Mosley wrote to the teams yesterday offering them some of the concessions that they wanted to see regarding governance of the sport, but made it clear that he was sticking to plans for the introduction of a budget cap.

In his letter, Mosley also urged the teams to sign up to the championship before sorting out the final version of the regulations and a redrafted Concorde Agreement.

In response to that letter, the teams met at Renault's Enstone headquarters on Thursday evening for lengthy talks, where they finally decided that there was no way a compromise deal could be reached with the FIA.

The teams expressed frustration that their efforts to try and improve F1 had been rebuffed by the governing body and the sport's commercial rights holder.

"Since the formation of FOTA last September the teams have worked together and sought to engage the FIA and commercial rights holder, to develop and improve the sport," said the statement.

"Unprecedented worldwide financial turmoil has inevitably placed great challenges before the F1 community. FOTA is proud that it has achieved the most substantial measures to reduce costs in the history of our sport.

"In particular the manufacturer teams have provided assistance to the independent teams, a number of which would probably not be in the sport today without the FOTA initiatives. The FOTA teams have further agreed upon a substantial voluntary cost reduction that provides a sustainable model for the future.

"Following these efforts all the teams have confirmed to the FIA and the commercial rights holder that they are willing to commit until the end of 2012.

"The FIA and the commercial rights holder have campaigned to divide FOTA.


"The wishes of the majority of the teams are ignored. Furthermore, tens of millions of dollars have been withheld from many teams by the commercial rights holder, going back as far as 2006. Despite this and the uncompromising environment, FOTA has genuinely sought compromise."

The announcement by FOTA looks certain to overshadow the British Grand Prix, which takes place at Silverstone for the final time this weekend and which Mosley is expected to attend tomorrow.

With FOTA's stance now seemingly leaving no room for a deal possible, its likely that more new teams will be added to the FIA's 2010 Formula 1 entry list.

The inclusion of Ferrari, Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso on that roster remains open to debate, however, with the FIA claiming that the teams committed themselves to F1 in a deal agreed several years ago.

Code: Select all

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76292

FOTA Statement

Code: Select all

http://www.teamsassociation.org/press-release/2009-06-19/press-release

The story as it happened:
Spoiler:
FOTA to meet to discuss FIA response
Mosley outlines deal offer to teams
Mosley offers deal but deadline stands
FOTA urges for compromise in row
The full statement from the FIA
FIA: FOTA trying to control F1 rules
FIA says £40m budget cap going ahead
FOTA: No comment on FIA statement
FIA 'surprised' by ACEA's calls
Brawn: Formula 1 must learn from row
FIA: FOTA members preventing deal
ACEA wants change to F1 governance
FOTA vows to change 'bad' FIA rules
FOTA seeking 'sensible governance'
FOTA asks WMSC to intervene in F1 row
Formula 1 awaits 2010 entry list
Mosley to meet with teams today
Hill warns F1 not to repeat IRL mistake
Ecclestone would fight breakaway series
FIA hints at progress as FOTA responds
Schumacher: F1 needs manufacturers
FOTA plans response to Mosley
Manufacturers could face legal challenge
Mosley: FOTA should enter to shape F1
Massa: Formula 1 row a nightmare
Mallya wants FOTA suspension reversed
Drivers support FOTA in F1 future row
Drivers and FOTA discuss F1 crisis
Brawn pledges commitment to FOTA
Briatore baffled by FIA/FOTA row
Force India lodges unconditional entry
Force India facing FOTA suspension
Q & A with Mario Theissen
Start your own series, Mosley tells FOTA
Q & A with John Howett
Howett: Unity will make F1 stronger
Q & A with Stefano Domenicali
Domenicali: Entries not a climbdown
Exclusive Q & A with John Howett
FOTA teams submit F1 entries for 2010
FOTA agrees on plan to help new teams
Parr: Williams not trying to split FOTA
Williams team suspended by FOTA
McLaren feels 'peacemaker' in FIA row
Williams submits F1 entry for 2010
Teams demand FIA ditch 2010 rules
Mosley: Cost cap solution in sight
Teams continue work on F1 agreement
Fry: Talks have made good progress
Teams fail to reach agreement with FIA
Santander confident of F1 agreement
Di Montezemolo: F1 teams are united
Ecclestone warns Ferrari of legal action
Theissen urges teams to remain positive
Ecclestone worried Ferrari may leave F1
Q & A with Kimi Raikkonen
Raikkonen pledges future to Ferrari
FIA welcomes verdict, criticises Ferrari
Ferrari board to discuss F1 future

You can check the forum discussion on this matter here -> viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4113
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it by not dying" -Woody Allen

User avatar
Ali
F1 Driver
F1 Driver
Posts: 2476
Joined: 07 Oct 2007, 21:13
Location: Istanbul
Contact:

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by Ali » 19 Jun 2009, 00:10

In the middle of a night, having such news only makes you awake. Holy s***, what a twist this is!

I thought FOTA will eventually step back and accept FIA's offer. I really did but now this, incredible. Lost for words. They still might consider to give some time to FIA to think over this "threat" by publishing such a statement at such a time but I think it's gonna be real for real.

Grand Prix Championship. Sounds awkard, exciting though.

And it's fotunate that Bernie wanted to get rid of Silverstone and Canada tracks, so that FOTA can include them into their calender :lol:
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it by not dying" -Woody Allen

shämito
kart driver
kart driver
Posts: 81
Joined: 14 Jun 2009, 21:49

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by shämito » 19 Jun 2009, 00:13

This is maybe good thing.

User avatar
iceman1
F1 Legend
F1 Legend
Posts: 23702
Joined: 16 Sep 2006, 15:50
Location: North Pole
Contact:

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by iceman1 » 19 Jun 2009, 00:20

RIP Formula 1

1950 - 2009

"An entertaining sport that was killed off through strangulation by Max Mosley."

User avatar
Ali
F1 Driver
F1 Driver
Posts: 2476
Joined: 07 Oct 2007, 21:13
Location: Istanbul
Contact:

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by Ali » 19 Jun 2009, 00:25

BBC 5 Radio - Report by David Croft

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 108492.stm

I think Williams and Force India might start to scratch their heads as their sponsors would think twice to pour them some money for some kind of F3 races, in which there will be no Ferrari, Macca, Reanult or so.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it by not dying" -Woody Allen

User avatar
iceman1
F1 Legend
F1 Legend
Posts: 23702
Joined: 16 Sep 2006, 15:50
Location: North Pole
Contact:

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by iceman1 » 19 Jun 2009, 00:27

Ali wrote:BBC 5 Radio - Report by David Croft

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 108492.stm

the F1 turkish fans are waiting for you to add this Great news to your blog :p

User avatar
Ali
F1 Driver
F1 Driver
Posts: 2476
Joined: 07 Oct 2007, 21:13
Location: Istanbul
Contact:

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by Ali » 19 Jun 2009, 00:28

iceman1 wrote:
Ali wrote:BBC 5 Radio - Report by David Croft

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 108492.stm

the F1 turkish fans are waiting for you to add this Great news to your blog :p

:p I have already added news for my beloved fans.
"I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it by not dying" -Woody Allen

User avatar
iceman1
F1 Legend
F1 Legend
Posts: 23702
Joined: 16 Sep 2006, 15:50
Location: North Pole
Contact:

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by iceman1 » 19 Jun 2009, 00:37

well the Good news is that we can keep posting F1 Videos without any problem, F** F~0~M :D

User avatar
fclen
GP2 Driver
GP2 Driver
Posts: 494
Joined: 04 Aug 2008, 17:54
Location: Under the sea

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by fclen » 19 Jun 2009, 00:42

Hopefully FOTA will be smart about it and create a good online distribution system. Heck I'll pay to download HD races to my pc or, even better, to my Apple TV. Let the good times roll!

User avatar
Liffonmelsmork
kart driver
kart driver
Posts: 94
Joined: 06 Apr 2008, 17:20
Location: England

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by Liffonmelsmork » 19 Jun 2009, 00:43

And with this exciting news fresh in my head, I'm gonna get some sleep before heading off to Silverstone!

User avatar
koinek
kart driver
kart driver
Posts: 57
Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 08:40

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by koinek » 19 Jun 2009, 02:05

I like how much they are emphasizing fan support. It's really gratifying and totally the opposite of what we've come to expect.

Bye Bye Formula 1. Hope you like your series Max with Lola, Prodrive, Campos and Force India. Low-cost, Low-skill, Low-spectator, Low-quality.

Hahaha can you imagine Force India: F1 Constructor's Champions!
Giancarlo Fisichella finally realizes his dream of winning the championship :thumbsup:

PS. I feel obligated to point out that I'm an Indian.

I have a feeling this will last for a year until Max and Bernie get booted/go bankrupt then the series will merge and F1 will be back in full force under sensible management.

I Love Crashes
Kart Champion
Kart Champion
Posts: 143
Joined: 05 Apr 2008, 17:16

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by I Love Crashes » 19 Jun 2009, 03:13

fclen wrote:Hopefully FOTA will be smart about it and create a good online distribution system. Heck I'll pay to download HD races to my pc or, even better, to my Apple TV. Let the good times roll!



That is what I have been thinking that they should do for a while now. If they release all of the races online that would be so sweet! :)
http://batracer.com/-1FrontPage.htm?Nn4

Do Hard Things Fast, Harder Things Faster.

User avatar
Zack
Co-Admin
Co-Admin
Posts: 4153
Joined: 27 Jun 2007, 15:26
Location: Bombay
Contact:

Re: Breakaway Series to be Launched by FOTA

Post by Zack » 19 Jun 2009, 05:02

Shocked! ...gm

Phil is still :sleep:

F1 is dead so Formula One Team Organizations(FOTA) needs new name :zz:

New series name ...

Formula Racing
Grand Prix Formula Racing
F1 Zone :lol:
Better than a thousand hollow words is one word that brings PEACE -Buddha
There is no point in defining a point... But there is a point in trying -Zack

ImageImage
[Videos]

Donate & support us
-ZACK- IO

Locked