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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009, 20:44  
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lol this will be a good news if Toyota leave F1.

They spend so many money in F1 and they have no results.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009, 20:47  
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lol this will be a good news if Toyota leave F1.

They spend so many money in F1 and they have no results.



I think it's sad to see an F1 team leave F1. Their results were quite good in the last 2/3 seasons. No win, but a few podiums. They were faster than renault this year ..

... oh wel :(
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
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If Toyota quit then "Sauber" will get the spot

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009, 20:49  
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iceman1 wrote:
Tom Vandenhove wrote:
Antonio Pizzonia maybe ?

Piquet ? :n

You ruined my evening :(

With Toyota maybe leaving F1, Kobayashi may be a good choice
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009, 20:55  
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very weak source, but lets go with it anyway

Toyota to announce F1 withdrawal tomorrow

http://www.f1network.net/main/s491/st151273.htm

Everything links up: Still no win, No drivers signed for 2010, lack of signing a big name driver (They wanted Kubica then they wanted Raikkonen), no word on the 2010 car or anything budget-wise. It is widely said that there is a board meeting this week or next week, probably announcing Toyota's withdrawal...

So Kobayashi will be heading back to his dad's sushi Restaurant.
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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009, 21:18  
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Hmmm Sushi... :drool:
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 01:19  
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there is no way u will see nelson jr. anywhere near an f1 car - no team would touch that!!!
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 02:10  
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But then why would they approach drivers to hire for 2010 (Raikonen; Kubica) if they were not serious about staying in F1 ? This must be a rushed decision - though supported by the lack of results in the past so many years.

Some of these big names that got into F1 with their own team failed yet they could have easily been successful has they stuck to just building engines. Few made it: Renault and Ferrari in the last 20 years built the complete car (chassis and engine) - everyone else won as a partnership between a dedicated chassis builder and an engine builder. Somehow some company execs don't get the memo about the global economy and think they can succeed alone...before they even proved they can win by partnering with others.
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Tom Vandenhove wrote:
They were faster than renault this year ..

Who wasn't? :wave:



I hope Toyota stay, if only for Kobayashi.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 07:19  
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2010 Drivers and Teams
as of 4 November 2009
Spoiler:
Ferrari:
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa

Red Bull:
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber

Williams:
Rubens Barrichello
Nico Hulkenberg

Toro Rosso:
Sebastien Buemi
Jaime Alguersuari

McLaren:
Lewis Hamilton
?

Campos:
Bruno Senna
?

Renault:
Robert Kubica
?

Brawn:
?
?

Force India:
?
?

Lotus F1:
?
?

Manor Grand Prix:
?
?

[s]Toyota[/s] Quadbak-Sauber:
?
?

US F1:
?
?


Feel free to point out any errors.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 08:30  
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According to Autosport, unconfirmed sources from Japan say that Toyota quits F1

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003
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PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 08:47  
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It's confirmed on both autosport and BBC now :(

Another big manufacturer exits F1. The 3rd in 2 years
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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 08:50  
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Toyota pulls out of Formula 1
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003
Spoiler:
Toyota has announced that it is to pull out of Formula 1 with immediate effect.

The Japanese car company revealed its surprise decision in a news conference in Tokyo today following an earlier board meeting. It said the current economic situation had prompted its departure.

"Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) announces it plans to withdraw from the FIA Formula 1 world championship at the end of the 2009 season," said a Toyota statement.

"TMC, which had viewed its participation in F1 as contributing to the prosperity of automotive culture, remained dedicated to competing at the pinnacle of motor sports even in the face of the abrupt economic changes that started last year.

"However, when considering TMC's motorsports actitives next year and beyond from a comprehensive mid-term viewpoint reflecting the current severe economic realities, TMC decided to withdraw from F1"

There had been doubts about Toyota's F1 future after the company reported its first ever operating loss in March, and given the departures of fellow manufacturers Honda and BMW. Toyota had also pulled its Fuji track, which hosted the 2007 and 2008 Japanese Grands Prix, from the calendar, and its customer team Williams decided to end its engine deal a year early.

But Toyota signed the new Concorde Agreement, committing it to the world championship through 2012, and team boss John Howett was adamant that the squad would be on the grid in 2010, although there were hints of a reduced budget.

The team had been pressing ahead with 2010 preparations - approaching big name drivers including Kimi Raikkonen and Robert Kubica, and talking of signing impressive stand-in driver Kamui Kobayashi for next year as recently as last weekend. Current drivers Jarno Trulli and Timo Glock had already been expected to move on.

Toyota entered F1 in 2002, and was tipped to swiftly become a championship challenger given its huge budget and resources. But it failed to win a race and has just three pole positions, 13 podium finishes, and a best result of fourth in the 2005 constructors' standings to show for its 139 grands prix.

The departure of Toyota is set to throw the former BMW Sauber team a lifeline, as the Hinwil squad and its new owners had been relying on another team dropping out in order to claim the final spot in next season's expanded 26-car entry.

Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to discuss its future plans today. Although the indications are that the French company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull out could give Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it wished.


:(

Looks like Quadbak is in.

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 Post subject: Re: 2010 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Regulations
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 08:51  
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cformula1 wrote:
Looks like Quadbak is in.

Yep. Sauber will get the spot. There might be a light at the end of the tunnel now for Nick Heidfeld ...
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PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009, 08:53  
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Tom Vandenhove wrote:
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Looks like Quadbak is in.

Yep. Sauber will get the spot. There might be a light at the end of the tunnel now for Nick Heidfeld ...

Yeah, Heidfeld deserves a drive.

Let's hope someone can give Kobayashi a drive (Manor, Renault?)

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