Lie-Gate - McLaren handed 3-race suspended penalty - Updated

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Re: Lie-Gate - McLaren to receive another penalty?

Post by BMWSauber5 » 12 Apr 2009, 14:40

hmm, see if macca do get a ban, it should not include kovy IF the stewards are nice, which is rare.

Hamilton signed till 2012, not sure on a get-out clause.
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Re: Lie-Gate - McLaren to receive another penalty?

Post by metalhead188 » 13 Apr 2009, 17:17

there is one... his manager "father" is reviewing it.... probable something like if the team is banned the driver can end his contract to find a ride for that year... most drivers put have that in their contracts to look out for their own best interests

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Post by iceman1 » 13 Apr 2009, 19:16

metalhead188 wrote:there is one... his manager "father" is reviewing it.... probable something like if the team is banned the driver can end his contract to find a ride for that year... most drivers put have that in their contracts to look out for their own best interests

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Post by BMWSauber5 » 14 Apr 2009, 03:22

if Hammy leaves Macca, then he won't get a drive for '09 and possibly 2010.
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Re: Lie-Gate - McLaren to receive another penalty?

Post by Ali » 14 Apr 2009, 06:18

FIA requests BBC's Whitmarsh tapes
The FIA has written to the BBC to ask for copies of interviews McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh conducted with the broadcaster in the immediate aftermath of the Australian Grand Prix.

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As motor racing's governing body continues its investigation into the lying controversy surrounding the McLaren team, the BBC has been asked to supply comments made by Whitmarsh in Melbourne that could throw a fresh light on how much he knew about what happened behind the safety car in the closing stages of the race.

Although Whitmarsh claimed at the Malaysian Grand Prix that he knew nothing about Lewis Hamilton and McLaren's former sporting director Dave Ryan denying to stewards that there had been a radio order to let Jarno Trulli overtake, his comments in the aftermath of the race suggest he shared the line they told stewards that the Toyota driver had forced his way by.

In a live interview with BBC Radio 5 shortly after the Melbourne race, Whitmarsh said: "Under the last safety car, Trulli's Toyota fell off the circuit and was on the grass. Lewis passed him as he could legitimately do so, and thereafter Trulli repassed under the safety car and the early indications from the stewards were that they felt that was incorrect. They are doing the full investigation as we speak and we will shortly learn if it is a third or a fourth place."

In another interview that Whitmarsh is alleged to have conducted with BBC pitlane reporter Ted Kravitz, it is suggested he said: "Trulli then retook the place under the safety car, which ordinarily you wouldn't do. I know that the FIA are looking at it at the moment."

The FIA has been alerted to the presence of these interviews and wants the BBC to supply any evidence that it believes will be helpful to its investigation.

McLaren is to face a hearing of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council later this month to answer disrepute charges that it lied to stewards - and forced Hamilton to supply an 'untrue statement' to support its case.

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Post by phil1993 » 14 Apr 2009, 07:10

BMWSauber5 wrote:if Hammy leaves Macca, then he won't get a drive for '09 and possibly 2010.


He'll go to Force India due to the partnership with McLaren

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Post by iceman1 » 14 Apr 2009, 09:27

phil1993 wrote:
BMWSauber5 wrote:if Hammy leaves Macca, then he won't get a drive for '09 and possibly 2010.


He'll go to Force India due to the partnership with McLaren

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Post by blizzard » 14 Apr 2009, 10:02

Does anybody know, when the decision of the hearing will be published?
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Post by phil1993 » 14 Apr 2009, 10:04

April 30th probably...

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Post by Ali » 14 Apr 2009, 10:04

The decision of the previous so called spy-gate was published in the very same day of WMSC. It should be the same for this particular situation.
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Re: Lie-Gate - McLaren to receive another penalty?

Post by swca92 » 14 Apr 2009, 10:20

The evidence is piling up on McLaren, though I still think the punishment will be a fine or points deduction rather than a ban. Hamilton is too much of a commercial commodity for F1 to lose. The reason why Schumi wasn't banned after Jerez was because it would damage TV audiences, and I think we'll see the same here.

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Post by blizzard » 14 Apr 2009, 10:31

Yeah, but Schumacher was banned in 94. But back then it was neccessary, to help Hill, otherwise Schumacher would have been champion in Monza or so.

I think it would be fair, to not ban McLaren or Hamilton, but deduct 10 points from Hamilton in the drivers and 20 from McLaren in the constructors championship at the end of the season.
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Re: Lie-Gate - McLaren to receive another penalty?

Post by swca92 » 14 Apr 2009, 10:36

So McLaren will end up with minus points??? McLaren will be back to having numbers 22 and 23 next year...

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Re: Lie-Gate - McLaren to receive another penalty?

Post by phil1993 » 14 Apr 2009, 10:40

no, there are only 10 teams this year so they'll be 20 and 21, unless we get another number kaffuffle.

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