Brawn GP takes Honda F1’s place on the 2009 F1 grid

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by shailf1 » 04 Dec 2008, 22:22

i guess its either a billionaire or honda is gone.

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by syncmaster » 05 Dec 2008, 04:01

poor Honda.I worry about Ross Brown what will he do,rest in the Honda team were just useless.
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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by f1anatic » 05 Dec 2008, 04:48

very sad of the sport and for the fans. I wonder, if there will be a buyer (assuming) will Honda stay as an engine supplier or not at all ?

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by AzShadow » 05 Dec 2008, 06:31

If anyone's still wondering, it's official:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72322

So, they're leaving for good and it's up to some crazy billionaire to save the day I guess.
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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by cheng.damien » 05 Dec 2008, 06:45

It was good while it lasted, especially during the BAR years.
Button and Rubens are without a seat, as is Bruno Senna and potentially Lucas Di Grassi.
It's going to be quite an interesting off-season in the drivers' market, on how to accomodate them.

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by phil1993 » 05 Dec 2008, 07:25

they will not supply engines either

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by swca92 » 05 Dec 2008, 07:51

Its selling the team for 1 pound

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by phil1993 » 05 Dec 2008, 07:54

yeah, I heard that too. Anyone wanna chip in and rename it F1Zone.net Racing Team :p

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by AzShadow » 05 Dec 2008, 09:15

Mosley's letter to the teams:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72325 wrote:Further to my letter of 18 November (copy attached for convenience), we have completed the tendering process and are now in exclusive negotiations with Cosworth together with Xtrac and Ricardo Transmissions (XR) to supply a complete Formula One power train starting in 2010. The engine will be a current Formula One engine while the transmission will be state-of-the-art Formula One and a joint effort by two companies which already supply transmissions to most of the grid.

The cost to each team taking up this option will be an up-front payment of £1.68M (€1.97M) and then £5.49M (€6.42M) per season for each of the three years of the supply contract (2010, 2011, 2012). This price is based on four teams signing up and includes full technical support at all races and official tests, plus 30,000 km of testing. The annual cost will reduce if more teams take up the option, for example to £4.99M (€5.84M) per team with eight teams. It will further reduce if less than 30,000 km of testing is required. Neither engine nor transmission will be badged.

As suggested in my letter of 18 November, teams participating in the 2010 Championship would then have three options:

- the above;

- the right to build an engine themselves, identical to the above, having been supplied with all the necessary technical information;

- the right to continue to use their existing engine, with the current ban on development and requirement for engine parity still in place (noting that the engine supplied will become the reference engine for output and other performance indicators and no engine will be permitted to exceed those indicators).

Teams opting for one of the latter two options would nevertheless use the XR transmission.

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So basically he still offers the standard engine but you don't have to use it if you don't want.
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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by iceman1 » 05 Dec 2008, 09:30

Button is the third highest paid driver in F1 , will he Join STR ?

The grid is often the best indication of the health of a series

The FIA reacts :
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=36687

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by syncmaster » 05 Dec 2008, 09:37

We have some more refugee's now and that Button and Rubens what will they do now?
will Jenson join STR i dont think so because now itself STR has around 4 to 5 choices.
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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by phil1993 » 05 Dec 2008, 09:38

Someone (Prodrive???) will buy Honda

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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by syncmaster » 05 Dec 2008, 09:43

Yes someone must buy Honda or else there will be only 9 teams and only 18 cars so less overtaking and that would be little boring.What FIA will do now to improve overtaking :D.....................lol
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Re: For crisis, Honda leaves F1

Post by iceman1 » 05 Dec 2008, 09:44

Maybe Mateschitz will want a third Red Bull team :laugh1: or a Ferrari B team , Toyota and Renault are in the same situation as Honda ,their road cars sales have dropped hugely!!!

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