Medals to decide championship?

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Which system would you prefer?

Medals for podium places
2
3%
Points as it is now (10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1)
19
32%
Points this way (12-8-6-5-4-3-2-1)
32
54%
Other (please tell us)
6
10%
 
Total votes: 59

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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by swca92 » 17 Mar 2009, 17:17

You forgot fat,ugly,obsequious sycophants and in that list

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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by shailf1 » 17 Mar 2009, 17:19

This is stupid. What a garbage rule.

Lets give a scenario:

Driver 1 wins 5 races, and DNF's from the other 13.
Driver 2 wins 4 races, but finishes 2nd in every other race.

Driver 1 still wins.

With the points system, Driver 1 would have 50 points, but Driver 2 would have 142 points. Nearly 3 times as many.

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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by phil1993 » 17 Mar 2009, 17:45

precisely. you have hit the nail on the head there. I think 12-9-7 is sooo much better. also, what will the table look like?

Raiko: 50 points (5 wins)
Massa: 142 Points (4 wins)
Hamilton: 63 points (3 wins)
Alonso 54 points (3 wins)

then Raik would be 4th. It shows how you could do what Brawn might now do: go flat out to try and win the first 4-5 before the others catch up and you pretty much have the title in the bag

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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by AzShadow » 17 Mar 2009, 18:04

So, FIA has decided to ignore FOTA, probably to show who's in power.

FOTA 'concerned' about FIA decisions
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73754

When I think about it, at first it sounds quite good and it would probably help drivers like Kimi who drive to win and the success wouldn't be too dependent on reliability. But I understand that it could be exploited and could lead to quite awkward seasons. So a point system that gives more points to the winner would be fair and still interesting.

We can only hope that these new regulations work. There won't be anything exciting about fuel strategies either anymore.
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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by Fergie1 » 17 Mar 2009, 18:33

http://www.petitiononline.com/f109w/petition.html
Sign please if you're against it. Thanks

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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by phil1993 » 17 Mar 2009, 18:42

No. Sign the one on my sig :p

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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by kimi and mika » 17 Mar 2009, 19:44

I signed both. I think it would be OK, sometimes it will make the fight longer, sometimes shorter. Sometimes they change the outcome of the championship(i'm not just going on about last year, I don't care about that anymore). They really change the back end of the field, Last year Piquet got a 2nd place...so he is infront of a lot of people. One lucky result and you are suddenly somewhere you don't deserve. It shouldn't always be about consistancy but Medals are ridiuculous! What do the lower teams fight for then?

They only changed the points because of MS, he's gone now! Either change it back to 10-6-4-3-2-1 or do 12-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 or if they want do my made up way which is:

40-35-30-25-20-18-16-14-12-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Points for everyone...rewards consistancy but rewards wins too.
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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by Irishf1 » 17 Mar 2009, 20:26

I was hoping this wouldn't happen, stupid system. The only reason why this passed was because of Bernie's Bias towards Ferrari. Now I'm kinda hoping 18 of the drivers win, so it can be a true championship :).

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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by kimi and mika » 17 Mar 2009, 20:29

Then the driver with the most second places will win, it doesn't make it much better.
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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by metalhead188 » 17 Mar 2009, 20:31

the point of racing is to win not ride around and collect points...so if the FIA and FOTA want to make changes to make winning a priority then they are improving F1

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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by Rachael The Great » 17 Mar 2009, 21:21

I can't believe this. This is so s***.
So if someone came 2nd ALL the time they could still not end up winning? This is so c**p. :<>: :<>:
shail69 wrote:This is stupid. What a garbage rule.

Lets give a scenario:

Driver 1 wins 5 races, and DNF's from the other 13.
Driver 2 wins 4 races, but finishes 2nd in every other race.

Driver 1 still wins.

With the points system, Driver 1 would have 50 points, but Driver 2 would have 142 points. Nearly 3 times as many.

Exactly!!!!
Grrrr...petition, signed.
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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by sejtur » 17 Mar 2009, 21:52

alex1369 wrote:to be hones guys i now watch nascar races also cuz its more interesting -- overtakings, and when they crash there then 10- 15 cars crash -- now that is interesting, in f1 no one wants to risk -- except lewis he showed us in japan 08, and of course montoya, today everyone is afraid to get a scratch to the car, f1 is not the same any more when michael and montoya left, on one tryes to risk a move, they dont have the b*** anymore


Erhem did you forget about Spa 08? Kimi + Lewis taking risks.

I think that these regulations are a bit too harsh. I would have gone the middle route, the 12-9-7 etc thing. But I think this system has a few advantages still. Everyone near the 1st place will risk a lot to get in the 1st place. I think they will be more fighting like animals this year, I think now every race comes closer to the level of tension which Spa was, if there's not anyone dominating. But if #1 and #2 are close, I suspect #2 will do more to get in 1st place than before, in a lot of situations. But there are disadvantages too. But I like the idea more of people for the win, than for consistency. If people strive to win even more, to me, it's more heroic. We will have to see how this all unpacks, but for now I think about the matter like this.
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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by JoostLamers » 17 Mar 2009, 21:57

phil1993 wrote:No. Sign the one on my sig :p

Signed!! Ridiculous!! :<>:
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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by WDC » 18 Mar 2009, 03:12

i dont think more points need to be awarded... then youll end up with a V8 supercars style championship where the winner has 1200 points... too americanised!
i think that it should go back to the 10-6-4-3-2-1 system... bring back the tradition!
this idea about awarding the championship to the driver with the most wins is crazy... effectively we could have a champion be crowed in june/july! and what phil1993 said is exactly right!
weird... i hope they reconsider!
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Re: Medals to decide championship?

Post by shailf1 » 18 Mar 2009, 10:25

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/cancel ... nship-2009

Online Petition to reject new points system

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