2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by iceman1 » 13 Mar 2009, 14:29

Pre-Season Testing Comparison: 2008 vs. 2009

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1.In the testing trim that resulted in the fastest laps during both sessions, the new 2009 cars are faster at this point of the year than the 2008 cars were twelve months ago. Everyone has made time and are now lapping quicker.
2.The biggest gainers are Brawn, who over their previous pace as Honda, have improved by a whopping 3.733s.
3. The smallest gain by any of the teams goes to McLaren, who have only improved by 0.440s.

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by megasyxx » 13 Mar 2009, 16:00

that's it, straight from the horses' mouth....the mclaren mp4-24 is slow, have problems. at least there's brawn mercedes and force india mercedes to battle the top teams and against the midfield......mclaren will battle against the back-markers :lol:
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by phil1993 » 13 Mar 2009, 16:48

"'McLaren in emergency talks over performance'

The McLaren team held a crisis meeting at their base in Woking yesterday, it has been revealed. Lewis Hamilton joined the meeting after returning from the Barcelona test to join team-mate Heikki Kovalainen, Team Principal Martin Whitmarsh and senior members of the team's technical crew."

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by TwistedArmco » 13 Mar 2009, 17:00

I'm so relieved. Now all we need is for Ferrari to be shamefully slow as well when they all turn up in Oz, and that will be that. :)
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by megasyxx » 13 Mar 2009, 17:26

i doubt ferrari will be slow (though i would like that to happen as well :lol:). if anything, they might be even the ones who are sandbagging.
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by HandoZiZle » 13 Mar 2009, 18:14

This is all a big conspiracy by McLaren!!! Seriously though, it'll be a boring season if Ferrari doesn't have anyone else to battle with. I doubt BMW can and according to Kubica, Brawn GP might be a threat to BMW this season :confused: .
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by phil1993 » 13 Mar 2009, 18:16

It seems to me this

Ferrari >> BMW-Toyota>Renault>Brawn>McLaren>Red Bull>Williams>Force India>Toro Rosso

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by AzShadow » 13 Mar 2009, 18:20

At the moment it sounds more like Brawn GP is over a second ahead of Ferrari. :roll:: Plus Ferrari's reliability woes will prevent them from finishing anywhere in the first races which is enough for McLaren to catch up. Toyota seems pretty consistent but they don't exactly have top-notch drivers. Funny that the ones without KERS are doing just fine while the ones with KERS have all kinds of problems.
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by phil1993 » 13 Mar 2009, 18:21

True, there's no point having speed should there be no reliability, like the MP4/20. McLaren, should they be slow, should catch up by the European season.

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by Zack » 13 Mar 2009, 18:25

After reading massa's comment about ballast ....

Brawn >> BMW <> Ferrari
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by shailf1 » 13 Mar 2009, 18:28

do you mean ferrari and bmw are on same level

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by JoostLamers » 13 Mar 2009, 23:29

phil1993 wrote:It seems to me this

Ferrari >> BMW-Toyota>Renault>Brawn>McLaren>Red Bull>Williams>Force India>Toro Rosso

+1, I totally agree FI have passed STR! And let's hope Macca can improve during the year...
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by TwistedArmco » 13 Mar 2009, 23:51

Brawn>BMW/Toyota/Ferrari>Williams>Renault/Red Bull/McLaren>Force India/Toro Rosso.

This seems to me to be the groups of speed and performance at the moment. I think and hope that Brawn's preformance is genuine.
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by Zack » 14 Mar 2009, 05:01

shail69 wrote:do you mean ferrari and bmw are on same level

I think BMW are the one who are sandbagging!

atlas wrote:End of winter testing for Ferrari, so where are we? Well, If I could sum it up in one sentence:

We're somewhere towards the front of the group that will be lapped by Brawn GP.

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by phil1993 » 14 Mar 2009, 07:58

After all the speculation last year, anyone reckon Nando will be kicking himself for not joining Honda...

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