2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by alex1369 » 06 Mar 2009, 11:30

haha, thats normal in f1 -- 4 me, when someone spun and the cheer and laugh, i was in budapest 2006, and when alonso retired -- lost wheel nut - all ferrari fans chered laughed, all hands in the air, mines also, but when schumi retired, ohh damn all blue-yellow t shirts -- renault fans chered and laughed, it was unbelivable and funny moment witch i wont forget...

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by Nbuulb » 06 Mar 2009, 13:20

Yesterday Red Bull tested a new (ugly) "shark fin":

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Notice that this new "shark fin" (unlike the ones seen so far) is attached to the rear wing.
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by kimi and mika » 06 Mar 2009, 20:45

I'm a Kimi fan, but I don't want the McLaren to be really rubbish, any ideas why it isn't fast. I know this is only testing...but they should be faster.

Raikkonen covered 112 laps, as he focused his attentions on the Ferrari's set-up and reliability. Over eight tenths down on the Finn was Lewis Hamilton for McLaren. Hamilton completed 58 laps, but his session ended prematurely when a sudden gust of wind swept him off the track and into a tyre barrier.


Gust of wind...sure it was...any old excuse. I know F1 cars are light but, come on, the wind!
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by why so serious » 06 Mar 2009, 23:22

McLaren didn't use Friday test sessions as others did last season but on Saturdays and Sundays they were there in pacewise. They have quite good simulator which gives the team luxury not to show their real pace in front of their rivals. The reason for their lack of pace might be due to this.

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by phil1993 » 07 Mar 2009, 07:45

kimi and mika wrote:Gust of wind...sure it was...any old excuse. I know F1 cars are light but, come on, the wind!


Button: Spain 2004 quali. watch the vid at campsa; he got hit by a gust of wind

It happens. Its not a made up excuse

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by Fergie1 » 07 Mar 2009, 22:43

Hamilton Quali Silverstone 2008. Wind there wasn't it?

Anyway, is it Barcelona this week?

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by megasyxx » 07 Mar 2009, 23:00

why so serious wrote:McLaren didn't use Friday test sessions as others did last season but on Saturdays and Sundays they were there in pacewise. They have quite good simulator which gives the team luxury not to show their real pace in front of their rivals. The reason for their lack of pace might be due to this.


or simply, they are not in the pace! :lol: .....but i hope not :confused: :(
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Post by phil1993 » 08 Mar 2009, 06:36

Fergie1 wrote:Hamilton Quali Silverstone 2008. Wind there wasn't it?

Anyway, is it Barcelona this week?


I think so, but only some teams (Force India, McLaren, Renault, Ferrari) will be able to test the week after (w/c 16 March) as they will not have used up their allocated 20 days after this week.

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by coup » 08 Mar 2009, 07:20

phil1993 wrote:
Fergie1 wrote:Hamilton Quali Silverstone 2008. Wind there wasn't it?

Anyway, is it Barcelona this week?


I think so, but only some teams (Force India, McLaren, Renault, Ferrari) will be able to test the week after (w/c 16 March) as they will not have used up their allocated 20 days after this week.

brawn gp as well (they must have 20 days left)
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Post by phil1993 » 08 Mar 2009, 07:25

Yep, them too :p

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by Ali » 08 Mar 2009, 10:27

As per the McLaren, I've been really wondering for sometime if they were deliberately so slow. Tests cannot be a measure of course but we also had some data about their reliability. You can hide your fuel level but you cannot hide your smoke.

And from James Allen:

Meanwhile McLaren have been having problems with the rear wing and although they have those extra days in Jerez, they will want to get on top of their problems as soon as possible this week.

Essentially the problem appears to be that McLaren’s 2009 rear wing is stalling and causing rear end instability. They tried two difference versions in Jerez, but also stuck with the 2008 win for quite a bit of the time. They were never well up the time sheets and they did the lowest mileage of any team at Jerez.

This is a far from ideal state of affairs, but being McLaren they will get it sorted, I’m sure. It’s quite a complex problem, but they have some amazing facilities and they will be running millions of calculations at the factory to find the answer.
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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by Pety_018 » 08 Mar 2009, 20:56

alex1369 wrote:haha, thats normal in f1 -- 4 me, when someone spun and the cheer and laugh, i was in budapest 2006, and when alonso retired -- lost wheel nut - all ferrari fans chered laughed, all hands in the air, mines also, but when schumi retired, ohh damn all blue-yellow t shirts -- renault fans chered and laughed, it was unbelivable and funny moment witch i wont forget...



This year it was the same with Hamilton and Massa :)

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by iceman1 » 08 Mar 2009, 21:08

Red Bull
Fastest car on one lap. Mercedes and Ferrari said they will have to keep an eye on them.

Ferrari
Best car on long stints. Seems, the new car is nice to the tyres, just as it's predecessors.

Toyota
Best car in the rain, which is a sign for good handling and much downforce.

BMW
Didn't play their cards till now. Good Lap times and comments of the drivers pointing to a good package.

McLaren
Seem to have problems with the aerodynamics. No good times, neither on one lap nor on long stints. The failure of the rear brake system points to aerodynamic problems in the back. Doesn't seem to work as predicted in the wind tunnel. So the colling didn't get enough air and therefore the brakes overheated.

Renault
Remain a riddle. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Big improvements for Barcelona. Piquet states, that the can improve more than others because they started testing earlier while not attaching their latest developments.

Williams
Look like mid field contenders. Not the best lap times. A new front wing is to come before Melbourne.

Force India
Narrowed the gap to the rest of the Pack. Sutil had balance problems but found a good setup on the last day at jerez.

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by shailf1 » 09 Mar 2009, 13:04

Progress so far

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13:00 pm The session ends and makes a break for lunch. Come back with you as soon as you resume the session.
12:56 h Piquet and Bourdais are shooting themselves in court, both maintained a steady trend towards their recent timing. We have been informed, within a few minutes there will be a pause.
Recapitulating 12:50 h, until now the ranking of time is as follows: Button 1 on your lap 30 with a time of 1:21:140, 2nd Trulli (v50) in 1:21:852, 3rd Piquet (V35) at 1 : 22:008, 4th Sutil (v47) with a time trial in 1:22:452, 5 Bourdais (v50) in 1:22:660, 6 Webber (v49) in 1:22:679, 7 Nakajima (V38) with 1 : 22:813, 8th Raikkonen (V25) with 1:22:869, 9 Heidfeld (V21) in 1:23:605, 10th and Kovalainen (v57) in 1:24:289.
12:11 h Button, Webber and Bourdais returned to the track to mark a new order to the table of times. Now is the pilot Brawn MP who heads the rankings with a time of 1:21:140, followed with a second forward 1:21:852 Trulli in third place Sebastien Bourdais reappears in 1:22:660, followed by Mark Webber with a time of 1:22:679.
12:01 h Checking Escaleta cronos warned of the charioteer Ferrari, Kimi Raikkonen, was the runner with a low profile in this first day of testing. This data coupled with some not particularly fast time leads us to speculate that perhaps the pilot is testing a number of parts and settings on your F60.
11:49 pm Meanwhile, the kamikaze Williams, Kazuki Nakajima returns to Piquet track and pushes off the third with a time of 1:22.813.
11:45 pm After a stroll through the paddock, look at the sky and see the sun begins to drill more and more the mantle of clouds covering the circuit Montmeló.
11:40 pm Webber and Piquet Jr are very even in rolling strategy and result, Nelson will win back the advantage by lowering the clock to 1:22:839.
11:35 h Webber regains third place in 1:23:191, while Piquet was kept constant at short distance with a time of 1:23:279.
11:25 h Trulli is the best time of the round table in his 20 with a time of 1:22:341. He treads the heels Jenson Button with a very tight, 1:22:414.
11:21 h Changes in the ranking of time, Nelsinho R29 pulling his spurs Sutil's third post, the German mark 1:23:694, followed by Trulli in 1:23:775.
11:12 pm The sky is still cloudy, though the sun seems gusts stands out among the clouds. However, the appearance of sky seems to be quite long.
11:02 pm Now it remains in fourth place Mark Webber, with a time 1:24:055.
10:58 h Sutil to achieving a reduction in 1:23:956 seconds remaining in the third best time.
10:52 h in fifth place in the table are Sebastien Bourdais, in his seventeenth lap 1:25:147 mark.
10:47 h Kazuki Nakajima has left a while ago to track, and just climb to fourth place with his best lap at 1:24:532. Now Mark Webber followed with a time of 1:24:669.
10:39 pm Adrian Sutil (Force India) Webber moved to the fourth position with the third fastest time, 1:24:216, German wheel in its sixteenth round.
10:33 pm update the table of times: First, Button in 1:23:064, followed by Jarno Trulli in 1:23:603, Webber is stabilized third in 1:24:669.
10:27 pm Indeed, the British gentleman of Brackley is the first in 1:23:064 cronos marking its ninth round.
10:24 h Jenson Button has put strong ramp in the table after Trulli, with a time of 1:24:537 on his fifth lap.
10:22 pm Just published in the stands Montmeló circuit. The time came and no time desapacible be cooled the spirits of fans waiting to make act of presence Fernando Alonso who was waiting for the day tomorrow.
10:14 h Trulli still cutting time. His last two rounds have confirmed this trend, 1:23:876 and 1:23:603 in the eleventh round.
10:09 h care because Jarno Trulli returns to move up the table with a time of 1:24:934. Webber followed with a second in 1:25:046
Weber 10:06 h, the charioteer of red bull (Red Bull), gets ahead of Trulli shortening their time trial at 1:26:593.
10:02 h seems to want to get the sun in the sky fog Montmeló for the moment remains the sky.
10:01 h Nakajima cut fifth time in his lap, 1:35:408. Kovalainen is the slowest at 1:50:366 with his back to the sixth track.
10:00 pm So far the time table is in the following order: Trulli leads with 1:32:365 times, Webber remains in its thirteenth recording a lap time of 1:32:646, Raikkonen remains in their 1:33:850, while Bourdais off the track lap after installation marking 1:34:620
09:54 h Nakajima makes his third return in 1:38:281
09:53 h followed Trulli in his third round with 1:32:365
09:51 h Webber had just made the round of 12 at a time 1:32:646, the fastest time so far
At 09:50 h on the track are now in their ninth round Webber and Kovalainen in sixth. The best time is 1:34:058 Webber.
09:37 pm At the moment, Raikkonen is the one who gets the best time to dial in their eighth round a 1'33 "850
09:02 h Trulli, Piquet, Bourdais and Massa had already returned to their boxes.
09:00 am The meeting begins with the mandatory installation back to the equipment used to check the status and operation of their systems.
08:58 h Fernando Alonso has confirmed his presence for 10, 11 and March 12 and his new Toro Rosso car today STR4 Monday.
08:30 pm Hello to all friends of TheF1. All Formula 1 teams in active part in training groups that host the Circuit de Catalunya today until March 12. The test will be the last to be conducted in the Circuit before the World Cup. Throughout each day there will be a car for each of the teams that come together in training: Renault, McLaren, Ferrari, Toyota, Williams, BMW, Red Bull, Toro Rosso, Force India and Brawn GP, replacing Honda. May continue to complete the TheF1.com since.


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surprising to see brawn gp on the top!

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Re: 2009 Winter & Mid-season testing (Results and Pictures)

Post by megasyxx » 09 Mar 2009, 16:37

brawn gp are reportedly going to be supplied by mercedes engines, are they using it already or are still on the honda v8?
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