The outcome of the appeal

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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by JoostLamers » 22 Sep 2008, 21:38

swca92 wrote:Well I believe Jean Todt is on the FIA's executive committee,so draw your own conclusions.I've already posted my verdict on what I think will happen,which is basically for political reasons the FIA will reject the appeal.But Ferrari having a lawyer there I find disgraceful.Why is he there? Ferrari weren't supposed to have complained about Lewis in the first place,and the verdict should have nothing to do with Ferrari.Also this appeal looks to me like a kangaroo court.The same organisation that made the decision now hears the appeal against it.Are the FIA really going to upset its ally (Ferrari)? Going to go against its own stewards? Wreck the authority of its stewards? Make a championship less close?

We'll all know it.. Tomorrow..

That would be a good climax in a drama serie :p
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by scermat » 22 Sep 2008, 21:41

way i see it is McLaren are appealing for the sake of bring their point across that they didnt deserve it. its kind of obvious they were never gonna get the decision overturned and hamilton didnt do any favours with what he told to Tozzi (kudos to him for sayin it). McLaren had to put up with enough over the past few years i think to just "move on" yet again from a decision they think is unfair against them.
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by syncmaster » 22 Sep 2008, 22:59

No comments.....justing waiting for the outcome
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by JoostLamers » 23 Sep 2008, 07:33

Does anyone know at what time the outcome is announced??
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by blizzard » 23 Sep 2008, 12:54

I´ve heard in the afternoon or early evening.

I hope they give him the points back and this inexpressibly saga ends.
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by iceman1 » 23 Sep 2008, 13:51

Sky news has said that it looks like the appeal has been successfull

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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by AzShadow » 23 Sep 2008, 14:23

Sky news are wrong then. :p

The appeal has been rejected:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsp ... 627941.stm

Seriously, appealing FIA's decisions has mostly been useless in the past.

I read from other sources that the appeal was inadmissible as was the Brazil GP appeal last year. Maybe McLaren should hire better lawyers as they don't even know when they are eligible to appeal.

Official decision: http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=36038
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by JoostLamers » 23 Sep 2008, 14:35

Sing with me!! Farce, farce, farce, farce, farce
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by TwistedArmco » 23 Sep 2008, 14:39

That's chanting, not singing.

Song chorus:
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by Lemans3 » 23 Sep 2008, 14:43

I believe the FIA sucks!

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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by IraNik » 23 Sep 2008, 14:51

AzShadow wrote:Seriously, appealing FIA's decisions has mostly been useless in the past.


In recent history, the only team that has won an appeal against the maFIA is, well, the mafia itself, aka scuderia ferari.

"http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sport/formula_1/483198.stm"

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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by TwistedArmco » 23 Sep 2008, 14:56

Well I daresay we will be hearing maFIA, FIAt, and Ferrari International Assistance a hell of a lot.. but the thing is it won't change anything. So keep cursing in your head. We don't want a repeat of post-Belgium.
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by Lightning983 » 23 Sep 2008, 15:05

YAY!

Lets all say it together :D

Happy to see the rules being followed, and that the penalty stands.

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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by blizzard » 23 Sep 2008, 15:12

IraNik wrote:
AzShadow wrote:Seriously, appealing FIA's decisions has mostly been useless in the past.


In recent history, the only team that has won an appeal against the maFIA is, well, the mafia itself, aka scuderia ferari.

"http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sport/formula_1/483198.stm"



Easy mate, as TwistedArmco said:
but the thing is it won't change anything. So keep cursing in your head. We don't want a repeat of post-Belgium.
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Re: The outcome of the appeal

Post by hannibal_rising » 23 Sep 2008, 15:17

The final answer:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pr ... 30908.aspx


Here you can learn the difference between rules (or laws) and justice... not at all the same thing... :sad:
The fact that the race direction made a mistake saying that the overtaking was ok is irrelevant...
As usual with the FIA, nobody does the interesting questions...

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