2009 Season Discussions: Line-ups, News and Miscellaneous

[JoostLamers]

I'd get lost because there's so many other circuit layouts

Agreed, they seriously need to do something about that IMO; tyre walls?

[swca92]

Bernie annouces that British GP is saved.

'I met Mr Murphy in the pub last night and he assures me that the Donnington circuit can be tarmacked by the end of November for only £600, cash.'

That wasn't me, but made me laugh.

[mememe]

I'd get lost because there's so many other circuit layouts

That's exactly what happened to me when I saw that video! .. as mentioned... something must be done.. I'd laugh my head off if say Kovy went the wrong way

[shailf1]

Full list of F1 2009 driver salaries:

1. Kimi Raikkonen $45m
2. Lewis Hamilton $18m
3. Fernando Alonso $15m
4. Nico Rosberg $8.5m
5. Felipe Massa $8m
6. Jarno Trulli $6.5m
7. Sebastian Vettel $6m
8. Mark Webber $5.5m
9. Jenson Button $5m
10. Robert Kubica $4.5m
11. Heikki Kovalainen $3.5m
12. Nick Heidfeld $2.8m
13. Timo Glock $2m
14. Giancarlo Fisichella $1.5m
15. Sébastien Buemi $1.5m
16. Rubens Barrichello $1m
17. Jaime Alguersuari $0.5m

Source :F1-expert Tom Rubython
http://www.iltalehti.fi/formulat/200910 ... 2_fo.shtml

kimi
just for comparison Michael used to earn about $50m.

[phil1993]

source?

[TwistedArmco]

Airtight, projected or completely guessed? I always want to know whether there's a special way to work things like this out.

[phil1993]

So on the Monday after Abu Dhabi I asked my Twitter followers to submit their top five drivers (much easier to fit inside 140 characters!). The huge cross section of fans would give a pretty good spread of opinion – but would at least provide some consensus about the jobs the various drivers had done.

I collated all the results and, sitting on the plane back from Abu Dhabi to London, I spent hours adding them all up. For the top five I awarded points – based roughly on the F1 points scoring system of my youth to reward winners a bit more. So it was 10-6-4-3-2.

And here are the results from the more than 300 people [I was one of them! - phil] who got their responses to me in time. I ignored those who voted for Luca Badoer for all the top five positions – and Ayrton Senna may still be a fans' favourite but his inclusion had to be ignored too.

Where some of you handed drivers a joint position I tried to distribute the points fairly and evenly – in an effort to make the final result as representative as possible of what you all thought. I don't think any positions would have swapped if I had treated things differently.

So here it is… this is your opinion on the top drivers of the season. And thank you to all those who contributed.

2009 'NobleF1' Twitter followers driver ratings

1. Jenson Button 1715
2. Sebastian Vettel 1273
3. Lewis Hamilton 891
4. Rubens Barrichello 543
5. Mark Webber 466
6. Kimi Raikkonen 314
7. Nico Rosberg 182
8. Fernando Alonso 152
9. Kamui Kobayashi 148
10. Felipe Massa 39
11. Adrian Sutil 38
12. Sebastien Buemi 29
13. Timo Glock 28
14. Robert Kubica 18
15. Nick Heidfeld 8
16. Giancarlo Fisichella 2
17. Heikki Kovalainen 2
18. Nelson Piquet 2
19. Jarno Trulli 2

It is clear that car performance has played a big part in the outcome of the views, but that is certainly not the full story – and once again we have to say that 'spirit' has been a key consideration.
Kamui Kobayashi © LAT

Button's domination of the ranking is greater than he enjoyed in the real fight with Sebastian Vettel – as a number of you thought that it was Vettel's mistakes that cost him badly this year. Spirit has clearly also paid its part in Hamilton and Raikkonen's performances in the table.

Yet I think the perfect proof of how a driver can transcend his machinery and show what he is capable of has come from Kamui Kobayashi's impressive tally. Here was a man who a few weeks ago was viewed as a sub-standard GP2 driver and appeared to be heading for a future working in a sushi restaurant rather than an F1 car. But two spirited drives in Brazil and Japan – and especially that move on Button in Abu Dhabi – have earned him a host of fans in the paddock, and it appears out in the wider world too.

[Tom Vandenhove]

Sebastian Vettel once again doing donuts live on the telly



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PQFAvkcEjU[/youtube]

[davidh]

Full list of F1 2009 driver salaries:

1. Kimi Raikkonen $45m
2. Lewis Hamilton $18m
3. Fernando Alonso $15m
4. Nico Rosberg $8.5m
5. Felipe Massa $8m
6. Jarno Trulli $6.5m
7. Sebastian Vettel $6m
8. Mark Webber $5.5m
9. Jenson Button $5m
10. Robert Kubica $4.5m
11. Heikki Kovalainen $3.5m
12. Nick Heidfeld $2.8m
13. Timo Glock $2m
14. Giancarlo Fisichella $1.5m
15. Sébastien Buemi $1.5m
16. Rubens Barrichello $1m
17. Jaime Alguersuari $0.5m

Source :F1-expert Tom Rubython
http://www.iltalehti.fi/formulat/200910 ... 2_fo.shtml

kimi
just for comparison Michael used to earn about $50m.

Now the discussion point is who was the most over- and who the most underpaid driver. Or is this obvious? Raikkonen the former, and JB -- since he became WC -- the latter. Rosberg is good but amazed he commands this much, given his youth, and Trulli is well overpaid when compared to other experienced hands such as Barrichello. Glad to see Grosjean not on the list...

[iceman1]

Schumi's world title car up for auction

Michael Schumacher's first Formula One world championship-winning car is up for auction at internet sellers ebay, with the 1-million dollar mark passed.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/sport/Motors ... 187873.ece

[Zack]

Full list of F1 2009 driver salaries:

1. Kimi Raikkonen $45m
2. Lewis Hamilton $18m
3. Fernando Alonso $15m
4. Nico Rosberg $8.5m
5. Felipe Massa $8m
6. Jarno Trulli $6.5m
7. Sebastian Vettel $6m
8. Mark Webber $5.5m
9. Jenson Button $5m
10. Robert Kubica $4.5m
11. Heikki Kovalainen $3.5m
12. Nick Heidfeld $2.8m
13. Timo Glock $2m
14. Giancarlo Fisichella $1.5m
15. Sébastien Buemi $1.5m
16. Rubens Barrichello $1m
17. Jaime Alguersuari $0.5m

Source :F1-expert Tom Rubython
http://www.iltalehti.fi/formulat/200910 ... 2_fo.shtml

kimi
just for comparison Michael used to earn about $50m.

iirc .. Michael used to earn something like close to 70~85 ...but he donates hell lot ...something $30m ..Africa where he has adopted few full villages.

I think for 2009 Massa had something like $22m Also Jarna had 20+ ..so i find data wrong

[Tom Vandenhove]

1994 Benetton for sale on eBay

Spoiler:

10 November 2009

A championship-winning Benetton-Ford B194 has been put up for sale on the German version of online shopping website eBay. The car, the likes of which was driven during the season by Jos Verstappen, J.J. Lehto and eventual Champion Michael Schumacher, is currently located in Toronto, Canada and could be yours providing two and a half million euros is available.

With the starting price having been just over €2m (£1.8m approx), the Benetton comes complete as a full package including engine, gearbox, wheels and tyres plus a selection of other equipment.

If you're in the mood for splashing out on a very special present this Christmas, more information and bidding for the exclusive piece of memorabilia can be found here.

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http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/11/10/1994-benetton-for-sale-on-ebay/

How awesome is that ?

[cformula1]

1994 Benetton for sale on eBay

Spoiler:

10 November 2009

A championship-winning Benetton-Ford B194 has been put up for sale on the German version of online shopping website eBay. The car, the likes of which was driven during the season by Jos Verstappen, J.J. Lehto and eventual Champion Michael Schumacher, is currently located in Toronto, Canada and could be yours providing two and a half million euros is available.

With the starting price having been just over €2m (£1.8m approx), the Benetton comes complete as a full package including engine, gearbox, wheels and tyres plus a selection of other equipment.

If you're in the mood for splashing out on a very special present this Christmas, more information and bidding for the exclusive piece of memorabilia can be found here.

Code: Select all

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/11/10/1994-benetton-for-sale-on-ebay/

How awesome is that ?

Already covered.

I wanted it for Christmas, but Mum said no

[Tom Vandenhove]

Already covered.

I wanted it for Christmas, but Mum said no

I only noticed your post after I posted this But yeah, that's a great christmas present

"Mooom !? C'mon, It's only 233,730,568£"

[cformula1]

Already covered.

I wanted it for Christmas, but Mum said no

I only noticed your post after I posted this But yeah, that's a great christmas present

"Mooom !? C'mon, It's only 233,730,568£"

Actually, this was the conversation:
"Can I have this Benetton 1994 F1 Car. It's only 4.1 million dollars*."
"No!"
"Please?"
"No. Too expensive."


* Australian Dollars