F1 Returns to BBC 2009

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by MansellRed5 » 25 May 2008, 18:47

EwmanM wrote:please. no top gear team next year, be a disaster
Couldn't agree more. It might be funny at first but it'd soon get very annoying. Besides, as far as I'm aware, Jezza is the only one that even likes F1.

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by CherryBomb » 25 May 2008, 20:18

After listening to James Allen today, I can't wait for the Beeb to take over.

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by MansellRed5 » 26 May 2008, 17:56

CherryBomb wrote:After listening to James Allen today, I can't wait for the Beeb to take over.
I know! "Lewis/Senna, Lewis/Senna, Lewis/Senna", shut the f*** up! :<>:

On the plus side, I was happy to finally see Steve and Mark standing somewhere other than outside the dreaded pit garages! :thumbsup:

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by EwmanM » 27 May 2008, 00:12

Id be much happier if Steve and Mark got on one of those Monaco boats and someone cut the rope, sending them far far away... with James Allen as captain.

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by IElectronic » 30 May 2008, 13:31

waheyy, im really looking forward to next year, BBC is the best channel to show motorsport, they should have all motorsports. Stupid ITV with the breaks and James Allen. Bring back the old title music, Murray Walker, Martin Brundle and Steve Rider.. that would be a great team, no muppet James.
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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by MansellRed5 » 31 May 2008, 15:52

IElectronic wrote:Bring back the old title music, Murray Walker, Martin Brundle and Steve Rider.. that would be a great team
I back you on 'The Chain', Muzza and Brundle. But not Steve Ryder, he's a biased unobjective idiot. Also, he's a McLaren fan and Hamilton being their star driver makes him love Lewis as much as James Allen. I vastly preferred Rosenthal's presenting to Ryder's :thumbsup:.

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Post by kimi and mika » 06 Jun 2008, 19:22

murry and brundle, no allen or then it will be the hamilton show. Look at Hamilton's Helmet, it's like Senna's, he is driving like Senna...to be honsest, I DON'T CARE!
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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by aj2kuk » 11 Jun 2008, 11:09

To be fair, Steve Rider's probably operating under ITV instructions to constantly refer to Hamilton Hamilton Hamilton. ITV have just decided that we only care about Hamilton because he's British - I think Formula One of all sports doesn't have so much of a national bias, we support who we like regardless of nationality (I think thats true of most of the F1 fans I've come across). The old 'British for the British' ITV sport mentality - look at Euro 2008 at the moment, constantly referring to players playing in the Premier League, trying to put a British spin on it. Makes me ashamed!

Basically, ITV is playing for the audience that are not F1 specialists, just generalists. Sounds like most of us probably are specialists!

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Post by metalpigy » 11 Jun 2008, 15:32

I think this is fantastic news, They gota keep brundle commentating and get rid of that chump james allen (the fact that he called his son Enzo says it all!). Am a bit worried though as the BBC would rather show tennis or golf instead of something exciting so i hope we get to watch all of the races!

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by MansellRed5 » 13 Jun 2008, 18:32

aj2kuk wrote:To be fair, Steve Rider's probably operating under ITV instructions to constantly refer to Hamilton Hamilton Hamilton. ITV have just decided that we only care about Hamilton because he's British - I think Formula One of all sports doesn't have so much of a national bias, we support who we like regardless of nationality (I think thats true of most of the F1 fans I've come across). The old 'British for the British' ITV sport mentality - look at Euro 2008 at the moment, constantly referring to players playing in the Premier League, trying to put a British spin on it. Makes me ashamed!

Basically, ITV is playing for the audience that are not F1 specialists, just generalists. Sounds like most of us probably are specialists!
I too have become very ashamed of ITV's British spin on their sports coverage.

However, I don't recall Jim Rosenthal being as arse-kiss worthy about Jenson Button when he was ITV's main focus of their coverage a few years ago. He did get mentioned a lot but NEVER to this extent. Besides, Ryder is a renowned McLaren fan so I sense that that combined with typical English bias (no offence) makes me wary to put all the blame entirely at ITV'S feet. On the plus side, he was better at the BBC, he still constantly mentioned Damon Hill but never to the ridiculous lengths that he does Lewis Hamilton. Also, why does he have to interview Lewis after every session? He was even interviewing him at every F1 weekend when he was still racing in GP2 for crying out loud! Even then he had a small spot in the F1 coverage! I fail to see how that appealed to the generalist viewers since you couldn't view GP2 until the following weekend on ITV1 at the time, so he was just a kind of randomer to them at the time.

After last weekend, I honestly don't care who fronts the BBC coverage next year, as long as it's not Steve, since every second word that comes out of his mouth seems to be either Lewis or Hamilton, it's so f***ing annoying! :<>:

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by David Smith » 14 Jun 2008, 00:22

Steve Ryder would be good for bbc f1 in my opinion, hes been in f1 so long and knows his stuff but dam, he works so much lol. Everytime im watching sport on ITV its him doing it :) Think he has too much commitments in ITV to move over to BBC.

Dont forget guys, its a british broadcast so we will always be bias towards our own, theres nothing wrong with this.Every country is proud of there own sports men and woman and love to blab on about them.

Its been a long time coming aswell after the Schumi era, been waiting for a potential british champion to come along for years now and now hes here everyone should get behind him 100%.

And put it this way MansellRed5, i think me and you would love it for them to be talking about Coulthard all the time ;) Love to see him in a winning car again, cant see it tho.

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by MansellRed5 » 14 Jun 2008, 19:51

David Smith wrote:Steve Ryder would be good for bbc f1 in my opinion, hes been in f1 so long and knows his stuff but dam, he works so much lol. Everytime im watching sport on ITV its him doing it :) Think he has too much commitments in ITV to move over to BBC.

Dont forget guys, its a british broadcast so we will always be bias towards our own, theres nothing wrong with this.Every country is proud of there own sports men and woman and love to blab on about them.

Its been a long time coming aswell after the Schumi era, been waiting for a potential british champion to come along for years now and now hes here everyone should get behind him 100%.

And put it this way MansellRed5, i think me and you would love it for them to be talking about Coulthard all the time ;) Love to see him in a winning car again, cant see it tho.
Nah, unfortunately, although DC proved he's still capable of doing well in Canada, I doubt any of the top teams would consider hiring him :sad:. If I was a top team owner though, I'd probably give him the chance, if only for one season :p. In a way though, I disagree, I'm sure if Steve talked about Coulthard as much as he does about Hamilton, it'd soon get on my nerves too. I mean, I backed Schumacher every year since I started watching F1 in '96 so last year I expected to pass on that mantle to Lewis after I'd followed his amazing progress through Euro F3 and GP2 and initially did for the majority of last year. He's a very talented driver and I'm glad he's British but I feel that ITV have been so English-bias about their coverage for so many years now, I think they've forgotten how to produce an objective show. Remember the Jenson Button era before ITV canned him in favour of Lewis last year? :p It was a sigh of relief at first, hearing about somebody other than Jenson for a change but that quickly became very annoying and hate-filled hearing about Lewis ALL the time and getting opinions from every member of his family. They've just went over-the-top now, I'm not sure if I can take the upcoming montage that'll be assembled for the start of the Magny Cours coverage next weekend which will no doubt have some ballad playing in the background as Lewis collides with Raikkonen in slow motion with James Allen commentating. Making it look like he was robbed of victory in both the race and the championship. Then the pre-qualifying build-up will be all about how it wasn't his fault that he crashed into Raikkonen in Montreal, and how he'll grab pole, start 11th in the race and win it. Also, ITV weren't always like this. When they took over the coverage in '97, they didn't clog up the pre and post qualifying/race with everything dedicated to Hill, Herbert and DC. With Rosenthal, Taylor and Jardine, they were very objective and it made for very interesting viewing. I can't be exact on when the coverage began to decline but I'm guessing 2002, as I remember there being a lot of focus on Jenson's good drives in the opening couple of races and all the speculation about him being replaced at Renault by Fernando Alonso for 2003. It was just pure coincidence that James Allen took over as lead commentator that year too :tired:.

Yes, Steve does seem to be quite the workaholic at ITV. I think they're probably trying him out on several different posts to see which one fits him best for next year. The BBC may not take him back after he defected to ITV to cover the F1 in 2006. However, if they are open to taking him back, I wouldn't expect it to be next year. From a personal perspective, I'm glad, I need a break from seeing and hearing Steve Ryder on TV all the time lol.

My apologies to all the Steve Ryder fans out there, these are just my personal opinions and thoughts :roll::.

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by David Smith » 16 Jun 2008, 17:38

I agree about a big team taking Coulthard back, such a team player. Coulthard and Webber together at the moment is the best pairing on the grid in my opinion. Maybe not the best car but both are so experienced and is the only team where i actually feel they are true teammates. Coulthard puts alot into his F1 still, does alot behind the scenes aswell. Think any team would love a driver like this and really dont see why hes would not get another chance in a big team.
His mclaren years have put a blackmark against his name where he was made to look worse then he actually was by playing second fiddle to hakkenin or kimi.

My opinion really but would love to see him in a winning car again :D

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Yeh cant see Steve there myself, i just hope BBC gets some good presentsers that have good knowledge about the sport. I really would not like to see/hear a amatuerish team like MotorsTV etc hehe :D

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Post by Liffonmelsmork » 16 Jun 2008, 20:27

The BBC's iPlayer will be great with F1. Much better than ITV's ridiculous, fiddly and tiny-screened "Track Highlights" rubbish.

Despite the page being plastered with annoying animated Flash-based banner adverts, they still decide to stick ads before and after every video clip. After the advert has played, you get the stupid Panasonic HD things with the poodle/matches/breaking glass and grating Def Leppard clip. And on top of that, you get the utterly pointless ITV F1 screen with the "DUUHH, DUUHH, DUUHH" music. As if you didn't know what you're about to watch. The highlights clip plays, lasts about two minutes, then you get vomited on by ads again.

I dislike ITV. I will never watch the channel again after the last race of this season.

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Re: F1 Returns to BBC 2009

Post by profile300 » 26 Jun 2008, 14:29

On witch BBC Channel ?

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