TC in 2008

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by iceman1 » 10 Nov 2007, 05:55

Raikkonen's driving style is quite slidy, so it's hard to know whether TC helps or hinders him relative to others
Montoya used to hammer the TC and maybe was prone to using it more than most

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by sejtur » 10 Nov 2007, 19:35

Iceman1, I think because Kimi has a slidy drivingstyle, he will be better without the TC, because you will slide more. Here's a movie with Kimi in the F2007 with almost no TC. Enjoy the sound. !grin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eff_VI6rqdA

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sejtur wrote:BTW F1 Champion, how do you know that Kimi used too much TC in the 1st part of the year?

I read it on another F1 discussion board and I think it comes from F1 Racing (the magazine) in the first place..


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Re: TC in 2008

Post by color » 10 Dec 2007, 17:37

kimi and mika wrote: Kubica will lose the most.


except... see how frickin' fast he was in lower formulas... WITH NO TC ON BOARD...

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by metalhead188 » 10 Dec 2007, 20:14

to tc helps the veterans out b/c there used to it and ferrari thanks to Schumi testing the car. start to expect softer tires for added grip and to have them wear faster in order to slow the cars down even more...

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by iceman1 » 11 Dec 2007, 18:13

Piquet Jr's view
“In a certain sense, mastering an F1 car without traction control is easier than taming a GP2. It's also true that the change to the V8 engine eased the transition for the F1 drivers. A V10 without traction control would have been a lot more brutal and more difficult to drive.”

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by iceman1 » 19 Jan 2008, 13:01

there seems to be a lot of discussion among the drivers
on the safety aspects of running in the wet without traction control

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=41625
Kimi Raikkonen has become the latest driver to join the debate about the possible dangers of racing without traction control in the rain – dismissing suggestions that it will create an additional risk.

The 2008 pre-season has so far been dominated by discussion about the affect the ban is likely to have in treacherous track conditions, with drivers including David Coulthard, Felipe Massa and Jenson Button highlighting potential safety concerns.

But the world champion has joined the band of drivers to publicly state a different opinion, with the Finn having some blunt words for those who have expressed fears.

“For me it's not [more dangerous],” he told Gazzetta dello Sport.

“And if anybody doesn't like it they can always go and do something else.”

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by mattinvincible » 08 Mar 2008, 06:43

always preferred it without TC, back to basics is what i say.

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by AzShadow » 08 Mar 2008, 09:57

Kimi is right in that sense that F1 is always dangerous, whether there's TC or not. Everyone knows the risks when they're involved so the drivers shouldn't make such a big fuss about this.
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Re: TC in 2008

Post by Henri1310 » 08 Mar 2008, 11:54

Races will definitly be more fun. It's a good thing that the traction control disapears.
I don't think it will be more dangerous, drivers simply have to be a little more carefull
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Re: TC in 2008

Post by premier » 12 Mar 2008, 10:54

I would like to see manual gear boxes back in F1 !yahoo:

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by alonso5 » 14 Mar 2008, 13:10

it will makeit intersting

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by cheng.damien » 14 Mar 2008, 13:28

Just happened to watch an onboard lap of Webber in free practice, not sure if fellow forumers agree..
I observed that the driving style has changed slightly - going deeper in the braking zone, and going very late on the throttle as compared to the past with TC. Lap times haven't been affected too greatly though, which is interesting.

In the low speed corners, especially the chicane and the 2nd gear corner after the back straight the absence of TC does make a difference. Should make for greater overtaking opportunities hopefully..in the wet, even more so!

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by maltafan » 14 Mar 2008, 18:55

I have seen some of FP1 and I agree with you.

Luckily laps are as fast as they were but the entertainment should be bigger. Also I would like to see good drivers do better than the not so good ones. Massa was already spinning a bit in FP.
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Re: TC in 2008

Post by ScuderiaFN » 14 Mar 2008, 20:35

I guess the TC ban wont affect the drivers much, since they are all very good, and have driven without it in previous series.

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Re: TC in 2008

Post by cheng.damien » 15 Mar 2008, 01:22

maltafan wrote:I have seen some of FP1 and I agree with you.

Luckily laps are as fast as they were but the entertainment should be bigger. Also I would like to see good drivers do better than the not so good ones. Massa was already spinning a bit in FP.


Yes, he might struggle to adapt with the lack of TC as compared to Kimi.
Kimi appears to be much smoother on the throttle while accelerating out of corners, maybe that's just the difference in their driving style.

I read an article on Autosport, the writer mentioned that the lack of electronically-assisted engine braking might be more crucial than the lack of TC. In my opinion, if the driver misses the braking point into a corner, then losing the stability of the car under braking may cost the driver more time than accelerating out of the corner.

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