Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by Silver Shadow » 26 Sep 2007, 03:22

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by crazr » 26 Sep 2007, 07:51

"Ferrari President dedicates win to photocopy shop employee"

Ferrari's President Luca di Montezemolo should have also thanked Coughlan's stupid wife! Profusely!

What a twit. And Mike, this technical genuis at McLaren didn't have a CD burner or printer at his home? He could have sent it to me! Hell, I've got 4 burners and a couple of printers sitting around idle most of the time. At least then I could have warned him that to exploit the different weight distribution and aero balance, they would have to lengthen the MP4-22 wheelbase, then re-certify and crash test the chassis with the FIA, redesign the bodywork to work with the new wheelbase, redesign the front/rear wings also, not to bother with lightening the gearbox,...

Oh yea...And they would have to do this in a couple of weeks time to start winning any races!

Oh my! The McLaren sure looks the spittin image of a Ferrari, don't it?

McLaren had a s*** year in 2006. Hey, but we can easily forget that in 2005 they won a majority of the races, and had it not been so unreliable to begin with, Kimi and the MP4-20 would have wiped the floor with Alonso and Reny.

Ferrari should revel with pride in their Constructors WC. !yahoo:

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by iceman1 » 26 Sep 2007, 10:40

Montezemolo is happy with whoever wins the WDC this year:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ ... 0220.shtml

:roll::

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by McLaren-F1 » 04 Oct 2007, 15:02

Stepney told the website Grandprix.com that the transfer of information between Ferrari and McLaren had not been one way, and that he received from Mike Coughlan details about McLaren's pit strategies, test programmes, fuel levels, weight distribution, and various other aspects of the MP4-22.


http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ ... 2611.shtml

WTF?? :roll::
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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by Silver Shadow » 04 Oct 2007, 18:16

McLaren-F1 wrote:
Stepney told the website Grandprix.com that the transfer of information between Ferrari and McLaren had not been one way, and that he received from Mike Coughlan details about McLaren's pit strategies, test programmes, fuel levels, weight distribution, and various other aspects of the MP4-22.


http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ ... 2611.shtml

WTF?? :roll::

So to sum it up: everyone spies on each other in order to go faster. The only difference was that McLaren had documents from Ferrari to definitively get answers about Ferrari's cars.

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by maltafan » 04 Oct 2007, 20:52

McLaren-F1 wrote:
Stepney told the website Grandprix.com that the transfer of information between Ferrari and McLaren had not been one way, and that he received from Mike Coughlan details about McLaren's pit strategies, test programmes, fuel levels, weight distribution, and various other aspects of the MP4-22.


http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/ ... 2611.shtml

WTF?? :roll::
and I'm sure more is to come about this to make Montezemolo shut his big mouth.
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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by crazr » 04 Oct 2007, 21:24

Yea, the pot calling the kettle black.

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by megasyxx » 05 Oct 2007, 17:47

crazr wrote:"Ferrari President dedicates win to photocopy shop employee"


He should have dedicated it to Nigel Stepney..... !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo:
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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by crazr » 05 Oct 2007, 19:11

Futhermore, I do not recognize the bulls** of the FIA/WMSC regarding the espionage/Hungary and therefore, McLaren have 202 pts. vs. Ferrari 170 pts. (at least in my private Idaho), in the Constuctors Championship.

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by mikedc73 » 08 Oct 2007, 21:34

crazr wrote:Futhermore, I do not recognize the bulls** of the FIA/WMSC regarding the espionage/Hungary and therefore, McLaren have 202 pts. vs. Ferrari 170 pts. (at least in my private Idaho), in the Constuctors Championship.



Don't Worry your not the only person with this thought!!! 2007 constructors are Mclaren.
Most people know it even people like me who are not Mclaren supporters.

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by FizzyJerk » 18 Oct 2007, 12:42

"I have no idea how anything came into Mike's possession. I don't even know for sure that he has had documents. Do you know for sure? Categorically, he didn't get them from me" - Nigel Stepney 07 July 2007

Can't wait to buy his book ..... ''hmm''
Per favore, avrei bisogno di cerotti

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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by megasyxx » 09 Nov 2007, 13:51

FIA begins probe into 2008 McLaren (Next year's MP4-23 under scrutiny)

Part of the ruling was that the team's 2008 car, the MP4-23, must be inspected by FIA officials to either clear its legitimacy or face further sanctions, possibly including a negative initial points score.

The newspaper reports that the FIA inspectors this week examined computers and design records, and took away boxes of data for further analysis.

- they took it away so they can give it to Ferrari !grin! !grin! !grin! !grin! !grin! !grin! !grin! just kiddin' $peace $peace $peace !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo: !yahoo:
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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by Zack » 14 Nov 2007, 20:21

One of the most talked-about elements of the McLaren spy case was a special gas used by Ferrari in its tyres – in particular, an incriminating email from McLaren test driver Pedro De La Rosa to lead driver Fernando Alonso that revealed that the gas reduced the internal temperature and blistering.....
http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/41398/ :huh:
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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by AzShadow » 19 Nov 2007, 17:43

The full FIA verdict of the recent hearing:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64055

Spy saga would have cost McLaren ECU tender
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 5045.shtml

Spying has always been in F1 - Newey
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 0211.shtml

"My personal opinion is that anything anyone can take with them in their head is fair game, but anything that is written or in electronic format is not," he added.
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Re: Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

Post by Lilellatho » 19 Nov 2007, 19:59

It's quite funny that in the second article Briatore says that he couldn't trust a company that was involved in a spying scandal. Good one Flavio! :roll:: &doh
Is this an old article or what? :angel:

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