Espionage at Ferrari and McLaren

iceman1 · Post by **iceman1** » 24 Jul 2007, 07:18

Looking forward to Thursday!!

But the story on the official F1 website makes no mention of a Ferrari complaint: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/7/6457.html

The same with the official FIA announcements:
http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Re ... 07-02.html

and
http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Re ... 07-01.html

I don't think that Ferrari reported anyone to the FIA.

Post by **Zack** » 24 Jul 2007, 08:24

iceman1 wrote:Looking forward to Thursday!!

But the story on the official F1 website makes no mention of a Ferrari complaint: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/7/6457.html

The same with the official FIA announcements:
http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Re ... 07-02.html

and
http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Re ... 07-01.html

I don't think that Ferrari reported anyone to the FIA.

Mclaren invited FIA to check that no Ferrari intellectual property is used in their car!

newtrex · Post by **newtrex** » 24 Jul 2007, 15:46

chelnov wrote:
zack wrote:

LMAO!

!cool!!!! !cool!!!! !cool!!!! !cool!!!! !cool!!!! !cool!!!! !cool!!!!

iceman1 · Post by **iceman1** » 25 Jul 2007, 12:42

seems McLaren were sent duff info

The interesting thing is Ferrari must think that Stepney is not acting alone. Seems that there might be civil war there

megasyxx · Post by **megasyxx** » 25 Jul 2007, 13:14

what we see here are individuals who plan to defect to another team.....the s*** with those documents?!?! what is fernando alonso for? mclaren don't need those crappy documents that produce unreliable cars

:toot: :toot: :toot: :toot: :toot:

fingerfish · Post by **fingerfish** » 26 Jul 2007, 07:34

today is the meeting, eh?
i bet nothing major's gonna happened.
though i personally wish more drama.

lucian · Post by **lucian** » 26 Jul 2007, 08:07

If Kimi loses the WDC this year I hope at least that Ferrari wins the WCC because of McLaren being excluded from that championship. But I hope the drivers don't get penalized, they don't deserve it.

iceman1 · Post by **iceman1** » 26 Jul 2007, 09:05

If today's outcome finds fault with McLaren, then yes their results this year will be drawn into question and their reputation among fans and sponsors tarnished. It all depends on whether the FIA believe that Mike Coughlan acted alone AND that there's no evidence that the information he possessed was used to advantage the team.

iceman1 · Post by **iceman1** » 26 Jul 2007, 14:07

BBC news - Maclaren escape any 'immediate' penalty

Super Aguri · Post by **Super Aguri** » 26 Jul 2007, 14:13

The FIA World Motor Sport Council have found McLaren guilty of possession of unauthorised Ferrari documents, but with no evidence that the team had made use of the information, the governing body elected not to punish McLaren for now.

The WMSC said, however, that if in the future evidence would be found to show that McLaren had used the information, they will be called back and face severe penalties, including exclusion from the world championship.

gutobr · Post by **gutobr** » 26 Jul 2007, 14:30

Macca + FIA= PIZZA Yellow_Colorz_PDT_31 :evil:
No penalties for MACCA in spy hearing...shame on you FIA.
Cheating is legal from now on!!! Yellow_Colorz_PDT_31 Yellow_Colorz_PDT_31 Yellow_Colorz_PDT_31 Yellow_Colorz_PDT_31 Yellow_Colorz_PDT_31

megasyxx · Post by **megasyxx** » 26 Jul 2007, 14:34

here it is......

McLaren Mercedes escape penalty (Insufficient evidence for the WMSC)

World Motor Sport Council – Decision
An extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council was held in Paris on 26 July, 2007. The following decision was taken:

“The WMSC is satisfied that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes was in possession of confidential Ferrari information and is therefore in breach of article 151c of the International Sporting Code.
However, there is insufficient evidence that this information was used in such a way as to interfere improperly with the FIA Formula One World Championship. We therefore impose no penalty.

“But if it is found in the future that the Ferrari information has been used to the detriment of the championship, we reserve the right to invite Vodafone McLaren Mercedes back in front of the WMSC where it will face the possibility of exclusion from not only the 2007 championship but also the 2008 championship.

“The WMSC will also invite Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan to show reason why they should not be banned from international motor sport for a lengthy period and the WMSC has delegated authority to deal with this matter to the legal department of the FIA.”

ntr · Post by **ntr** » 26 Jul 2007, 15:56

fia will change their mind when ferrari don't win the title this year

Post by **Zack** » 26 Jul 2007, 16:00

lol its like you have been caught by police with cocaine in pockets ...
you say "i don't know about this"
Police releases you free ... *BEEP* lol

waiting for Ferrari's official statement on this!

fia will change their mind when ferrari don't win the title this year

seems like anti-Ferrari :@:2

megasyxx · Post by **megasyxx** » 26 Jul 2007, 16:40

zack wrote:lol its like you have been caught by police with cocaine in pockets ...
you say "i don't know about this"
Police releases you free ... *BEEP* lol

waiting for Ferrari's official statement on this!

fia will change their mind when ferrari don't win the title this year
seems like anti-Ferrari :@:2

that's how those law-buff heads think...... :toot:

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