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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:03  
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xman2331 wrote:
man i miss schumi it would have been so tight to see him race against hamilton this year. would have been schumi vs lewis vs kimi vs fernando. and massa would be reserve driver lol.


Schumi would have had the points of Kimi and Massa together :D

I miss Schumi too Yellow_Colorz_PDT_33
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:06  
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Lightning983 wrote:
xman2331 wrote:
i would say this call was questionable for sure. but then again max mosley during the mclaren ferrari case said he wouldn't have hesistated twice to strip lewis and fernando's points from the championship this year if he had it this way. it's all down to interpretation



I agree that we disagree !grin!
Again, did you read what the judges had to say about it? That it would be UNFAIR or rob HAMILTON of his first title by DQing the team... if thats not favourism i don't know what is. I mean they don't even mention Alonso who was fighing it out till this race.

I for one think both Alonso and Hamilton should have been DQed from this year all together.

Just as a quick heads up to my point of view. From the first race i was - WOW Hamilton is amazing... great drive i really like the guy, then when he started to run his mouth off i was ok, he drives great so i'll ignore that, but now... well in a year or 2 it will me team Hamilton-Mercedes... :roll::


i just think alonso had his moments in renault for sure but he just his luck he comes to mercedes and with ron dennis he will never allow favoritism between drivers regardless. alonso got a asshurt and betrayed his team. to me it just looke really bad because he is the 2x world champion he should just be able to show superiority with his drives. but he gets beat by a rookie in the same car and all he will do is cry and even leave the team after 1 year. This is why I like Lewis he doesn't give his mechanics c**p and he got class and doesn't talk s***.
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:08  
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devereux wrote:
xman2331 wrote:
i think you're just a little asshurt cuze your boy alonso got SMOKED by a rookie wewpp


my boy alonso? my boy isnt alonso at all mate. i go for kimi and webber. u wanna start mouthing off a kimi verse lewis discussion do u?


the way i see it anyone that wears a gorilla suit to drink 40's with his homies is good in my book. it's just too bad kimi has no luck.
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:11  
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Okay so basically you dislike alonso a lot, and take every oportunity to diss him !grin! i can understand that...

Anyways i just read something about the tires. It looks like ferrari were TOLD by Charlie Whiting that the Extreme Wets are obligatory, and they disobeyed and started on intermediates...
After Whiting found out, there were evena talks of DQ-ing both ferraris, and if they didn't go in and changed the tires they would have been DQed in the following lap.

Where's Ross Brawn when you need him? Someone needs to get sacked in Ferrari...
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:15  
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Lightning983 wrote:
Okay so basically you dislike alonso a lot, and take every oportunity to diss him !grin! i can understand that...

Anyways i just read something about the tires. It looks like ferrari were TOLD by Charlie Whiting that the Extreme Wets are obligatory, and they disobeyed and started on intermediates...
After Whiting found out, there were evena talks of DQ-ing both ferraris, and if they didn't go in and changed the tires they would have been DQed in the following lap.

Where's Ross Brawn when you need him? Someone needs to get sacked in Ferrari...


ya ferrari definitely lost its edge. too many problems this year. i watch speedtv and the commentator steve matchett was saying why did ferrari make such a dumb move knowing they had to switch back to the full wets. but at this point i really don't think it matters too much anymore. realistically theres no way kimi can catch up anyway.
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:17  
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xman2331 wrote:
ya ferrari definitely lost its edge. too many problems this year. i watch speedtv and the commentator steve matchett was saying why did ferrari make such a dumb move knowing they had to switch back to the full wets. but at this point i really don't think it matters too much anymore. realistically theres no way kimi can catch up anyway.


I know, but still as a ferrari fan i'm pissed off at these kinds of decisions. You just don't risk so much 3 races before the end of the championship...
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:19  
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lol and wasn't it so coincidental the second kimi gets up to 4th massa pulls into the pit to change tires after he just change them what 5 laps before? theres never gonna be such thing as no team orders
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PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:22  
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Okay, a small update, looks like some journalists are talking about a penatly for Ferrari for disobeying the rules regarding tires... so maybe its not gonna P3 and P6 for Ferrari after all :(
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:23  
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i a little disapointed they had the race running behind safety car for over 10 laps. they should have just let them go right from the start.
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:24  
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xman2331 wrote:
lol and wasn't it so coincidental the second kimi gets up to 4th massa pulls into the pit to change tires after he just change them what 5 laps before? theres never gonna be such thing as no team orders


I absoulutley knew someone's gonna bring this up :D
But Massa did have to pit before the end of the race because he pitted earlier than Raikonnen and spent less time in the pits so... but maybe he had 2-3 laps more fuel in the car and they brought him in to save some time.

BTW, didn't Massa say he's gonna play the team game if its necesary?
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PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:30  
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it's offical now mathematically impossible for massa to win this years wdc. better luck next yr!
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:34  
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What a race! Congrats to Lewis from awesome job. Also big salute to Heikki Kovalainen from even more awesome job! Kimi did some nice overtakes and did deserve his third place. Poor Alonso. Poor Webber etc...
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 08:55  
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FerrariFan[FIN] wrote:
What a race! Congrats to Lewis from awesome job. Also big salute to Heikki Kovalainen from even more awesome job! Kimi did some nice overtakes and did deserve his third place. Poor Alonso. Poor Webber etc...


I agree that Kimi deserved the 3rd place but was very lucky to get it, on the other hand Ferrari didn't deserve anything today....
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PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 09:09  
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Vettel did a Great work until his brain stopped working :p
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 Post subject: Re: 2007 FORMULA 1 Japanese Grand Prix-Fuji Speedway-
PostPosted: 30 Sep 2007, 09:18  
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Phew, Kimi Raikkonen - what a race ..

Right'O - I have read through most of the comments and have come to a conclusion ..

Yes, the FIA do favour little hammy-boy, and anyone who would like to disagree, speak up - ahh, but first read through the transcripts of what went down in Paris the other week - The FIA did not kick macca out because their laywer [maccas] pleaded on the heartstrings of the panel to not kick them out purely because of hamilton - albeit - macca were clearly dishonest and broke the rules. I have seen that little punk get away with more things this year than Michael did in the last 5 seasons!! He clearly does not respect his peers and considering he hasnt had to work for his position in a top team really annoys me.

Kimi and Fernando over the last 6 season are where they are because they earnt our respect, they earnt their salarys and mostly earnt their drives not to mention their wins - I feel that hamilton wins thus-far have been shallow and arrogantly taken from .. who? The Fans of those Men who have fought tooth and nail to be where they are.

Come back to me when "our lewis" fights his way through the field from the back of the grid, in a 2nd rate car - geez I wouldve love to have seen Webber run him off the road and win!!!

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