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Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 24 Jul 2007, 19:03
by Super Aguri
What has Michael at Jerez in 1997 got to do with Nurburgring 2007. *Sighs* I can see this thread going downhill rather badly.

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 24 Jul 2007, 22:03
by WilliamsToyotaF1
The thing is Massa didn't know where Alonso was and wasn't expecting him to overtake him from the outerside he (Massa) continued on his racing line when he suddenly saw him beside him and managed to steer to the right imediately coz he would have spun Alonso if he touched with Alonso's rear wheels see the video again slowly.. apart from that it was a nice battle and maybe the most interesting thing about the whole race apart from the crashes in the begining and all that rain lol and also when Alonso showed the damage to the camerman in parc ferme lol :toot: ...Massa sucks Ferrari too :p and poor Raikonen what has he done with his own hands he could be instead of Hamilton right now.

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 01:45
by devereux
massa was travelling straight when they touched so he was able to turn left. he touched alonso on purpose, tryna squeeze him alittle too much

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 08:34
by [FIN]SpeedFreak
devereux wrote:massa was travelling straight when they touched so he was able to turn left. he touched alonso on purpose, tryna squeeze him alittle too much
Are you impotent or something??? CHECK IT AGAIN, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT FELIPE MASSA ACTUALLY DIDN'T SEE FERNANDO ALONSO BESIDE HIM!!!! <--- That's the link!!! And when he saw Fernando, it he immediately turned a littlebit to avoid that hit. IT WAS NORMAL RACING SITUATION! Alonso was on the driving line, Massa wasn't. Now outside of driving line, there is more water in the track that what are in drivingline, so try to drive better in that kind situation. You impotent McLaren fan.

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 09:06
by lmcsp
Here's the full transcript from Parc Ferme...

Alonso: You did it intentionally, as in Barcelona.

Massa: No, I did not.

Alonso: You broke my sidepod there - go and have a look at it!

Massa: Go f**k yourself!. You won and you say something like this.

Alonso: Mate, it can't break itself.

Alonso: I have fought with Heidfeld, with everybody, what you did with three laps to go can't be done.

Massa: He wins and says that. You must learn.

Alonso: It is you who has to learn. I have fought with everybody and with three laps to go, we touch!

Massa: Bravo.

Alonso: Bravo you!

Massa: You say that I did it on purpose, like I did that on purpose in Barcelona?. You were remained behind.

(As this point Ron Dennis steps in)

Dennis: Boys calm down.

Massa: Tell him to!

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 12:11
by OzonS
nop, i think nothing unfair here, massa just tried everything to hold fernando back, and actually did a good job there... he did not mean to make a contact bu it just happened, because it was impossible to avoid it, they were just too close.
I think fernando wast just too aggresive there, that turn is not very good for overtaking...

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 14:32
by sebson
oryt guys lissen up now, i only started this convo to get something goin, and thanks for that, it is fair,
check this is out, its kinda funny hahahahahahaha
FA : Tell FM what he did to the car
FM : Do you think I did it on purpose?
FA : You got the deflector, take a look on it.
FM : - ~slang~ - You win act and like this, Stupid.
FM : You win and tell me this, repeats…
FA : You cant do that.
FM : Buddy, try to learn something.
FA : Who have to learn something is you.
FM : Try to learn something, buddy.
FA : Learn, me? In front of everyone, 3 laps to go and we touched.
FA : Congratulations
FM : The same way you did in barcelona. You did on purpose there right?
Alonsou asked for to excuses the Mass.
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Felipe Massa mandou o alanso aprender oke é formula 1!
E o Alonso mandou o felipe ir “CAGAR”…
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Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 15:19
by GodHatesKimi
this is probably why im not a massa fan! sure his fast, but he just sucks at everything else!! i mean didnt hamilton make massa go wide back in bahrain? his just not agressive enough!! if he didnt want alonso to pass CUT across him!! harsh but fair!!! dont just shove a wheel! taht aint gonna get you anywhere!!

*hands massa the 'sato book of how to overtake and make it look craaazy!!'* :T:@

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 16:35
by OzonS
GodHatesKimi wrote:this is probably why im not a massa fan! sure his fast, but he just sucks at everything else!! i mean didnt hamilton make massa go wide back in bahrain? his just not agressive enough!! if he didnt want alonso to pass CUT across him!! harsh but fair!!! dont just shove a wheel! taht aint gonna get you anywhere!!

*hands massa the 'sato book of how to overtake and make it look craaazy!!'* :T:@

Easy to say "Cut across"... id like to see you cut across something in those conditions with problems in car...
Alonso simply made a fool of himself starting to argue after finish... and why is the guy even mentioning Barcelona, when he was the one who almost took them both out there...

this is not touringcar racing, if you want to put someone out or make a contact on porpouse you might as well wave bye bye to your own race as well, f1 cars ar fragile and Massa would not risk 8pts for a stupid move of which he would probably get penalized... he vas just hoping to scare alonso, so he would back off, the contact was not made on porpose, so get over it...

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 17:17
by sebson
oryt guys lets just calm it down, and discuss it properly hahahahaha,

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 18:27
by [FIN]SpeedFreak
It would be better to lock this and stop discussion about this subject.

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 18:35
by Super Aguri
Everyone has different opinions on this as we are all different but I just don't see this thread carrying on in a good way.

Locked.

Re: massa is unfair

Posted: 25 Jul 2007, 20:57
by iceman1
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