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Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 01:42
by mileso
Let's look at the technological "advances":
braking by wire FAIL
Most of the actual racing is being done via buttons on the steering wheel FAIL for race watchers
Engineers setting controls from pit lane FAIL for race watchers
Reduced down force FAIL for drivers and race watchers
New engines FAIL too much uncontrollable torque
Smaller engines but heavier cars FAIL due to turbo lag.
Reduced front down force FAIL as it causes early braking and poor cornering
Just to name a few.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 01:52
by F1EA
They'll improve and iron out a few of those issues. Also, they'll be able to be more aggressive when they know the cars better...... the question is, will that provide a better series or just bring it back to more or less what it was before?

I'm ok with giving it several races to see how it pans out. But so far, the show was truly poor..... so let's hope for the better

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 03:32
by tderias
mileso wrote:Let's look at the technological "advances":
braking by wire FAIL
Most of the actual racing is being done via buttons on the steering wheel FAIL for race watchers
Engineers setting controls from pit lane FAIL for race watchers
Reduced down force FAIL for drivers and race watchers
New engines FAIL too much uncontrollable torque
Smaller engines but heavier cars FAIL due to turbo lag.
Reduced front down force FAIL as it causes early braking and poor cornering
Just to name a few.
Excitement and uncertainty in races? WIN.

Give it time for God's sake. I'm with Francois on this one; the teams have done an immaculate job to get the cars to the finish today. I honestly thought we'd have no fight for points, but more than 10 cars finished, most of which haven't even completed a full race distance in testing.

F1 is the pinnacle in automobile technology. It can't be left behind, especially with manufacturers like Porsche, McLaren and Ferrari have all adopted hybrid engines in their flagship cars.

They'll sort the issues out, and soon enough the cars will be fast and reliable. Enjoy the racing and just give the rules some time...

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 12:07
by phil1993

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 15:28
by Vlad-SRB
A bit unfair to give K-Mag 10 and Kvyat just 8, considering the cars they are driving, but ok. And Button had an awesome race, 7 is way too low for that.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 15:53
by Fran├žois
It's not unfair. Kvyat held his ground firmly, made the best of his car's strengths (and his own) in the wet and then drove a very mature race to finish in the points and right behind his more experienced teammate. Magnussen, on the other hand, exceeded expectations by a landslide, outperforming his world champion teammate both in quali and the race. Of course there should be a difference, not that it diminishes Kvyat's accomplishment by any mean.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 17:17
by cformula1
While in my view Ricciardo's disqualification is justified (although perhaps a tad harsh), the FIA have very much shot themselves in both feet when it comes to retaining Aussie fans- the overwhelming majority of casual followers here are very upset by this and many of them I would think may not bother with Formula 1 anymore after this.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 17:34
by F1EA
Wow lots of really dire newsbits in F1-live... most articles sound pretty harsh against the current F1.

I was not happy with what i saw. Seems a lot of people aren't.

Everything capped with a report that Bernie may sell his F1 stake.

Something's wrong in F1.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 17:37
by phil1993
The issue is with the amount of time it took.

You'd have thought the FIA had the data and capability to throw him out before he stepped on the podium...

The problem is that everyone jumps on the negativity bandwagon. Give it time. The formula will work and we will still love it.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 18:32
by majidasadi
Well, I like the current situation, the sound of new power units is great IMO and the cars look very good from the onboard shots (only onboard shots of course!) and I think the new regulations have made races more exciting, we saw that reliability wasn't that bad and there was some quite interesting battles, I think people are judging new F1 a little bit too soon.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 19:49
by donald29
Christ, hate these OTT negative headlines. Like Phil says, it's jumping on the bandwagon. Such as 2010 (not enough pitstops) and 2013 (too many pitstops).

I personally think the new engines are great. It's better than Formula 1 using 8 year old engines. They're new and exciting, and to be honest I like the new interesting noises you can hear.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 20:12
by Vorull
donald29 wrote:Christ, hate these OTT negative headlines. Like Phil says, it's jumping on the bandwagon. Such as 2010 (not enough pitstops) and 2013 (too many pitstops).

I personally think the new engines are great. It's better than Formula 1 using 8 year old engines. They're new and exciting, and to be honest I like the new interesting noises you can hear.
I agree, the new engines are much better than the old V8s. They sound better, they are more efficient and make the cars dance on the track. And I'm quite happy that the tires last longer, it's less chaotic and overtakes will become more memorable. The only thing I'm not sure about is the DRS. Sometimes it aids to much, sometimes it creates opportunities that were never meant to happen.

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 20:47
by KevC

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 21:16
by edwardthetwinky
Vorull wrote:
donald29 wrote:Christ, hate these OTT negative headlines. Like Phil says, it's jumping on the bandwagon. Such as 2010 (not enough pitstops) and 2013 (too many pitstops).

I personally think the new engines are great. It's better than Formula 1 using 8 year old engines. They're new and exciting, and to be honest I like the new interesting noises you can hear.
I agree, the new engines are much better than the old V8s. They sound better, they are more efficient and make the cars dance on the track. And I'm quite happy that the tires last longer, it's less chaotic and overtakes will become more memorable. The only thing I'm not sure about is the DRS. Sometimes it aids to much, sometimes it creates opportunities that were never meant to happen.
From my understanding the new DRS allows up to 33 seconds of power now? It'll be interesting to see the straights and how the drivers will be utilizing it for take overs. +1 for the V6s but in terms of marketing the V6 term sounds so much more underpowered than saying "V8" haha. Cheers all!

Re: 2014 FORMULA 1 ROLEX AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 21:52
by Artur Craft
The ERS is for 33 seconds. DRS is only available in parts of the track when you are within 1 second of the car ahead :roll::