2013 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Who will win the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix?

Poll ended at 02 Nov 2013, 23:00

Sebastian Vettel
5
45%
Fernando Alonso
0
No votes
Kimi Raikkonen
2
18%
Lewis Hamilton
2
18%
Mark Webber
2
18%
Nico Rosberg
0
No votes
Romain Grosjean
0
No votes
Felipe Massa
0
No votes
Jenson Button
0
No votes
Paul Di Resta
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 11

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Post by mikhailv » 03 Nov 2013, 14:46

He had nowhere to go. You come from the pits at racing speed. Vergne shouldve left room instead of forcing him off track. Vergne saw him coming out.

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Post by phil1993 » 03 Nov 2013, 14:49

I reckon they'll look and see who was ahead at the pit exit. If it's Vergne, penalty. If it was Alonso, no penalty.

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Post by Joey Zyla » 03 Nov 2013, 14:49

Well done Vettel and Red Bull for SEVEN consecutive wins.

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Post by François » 03 Nov 2013, 14:52

mikhailv wrote:If Alonso gets a penalty for that, F1 is a disgrace.
The disgrace will be if he doesn't.

Vergne had the racing line, and you don't get priority when exiting the pitlane, ever. Alonso had the option of backing down, instead he chose to go all four beyond the edge. He should be thankful there isn't a gravel trap there.

Rather than consider post-race penalties, though, I don't get why race control doesn't immediately instruct drivers to return the position. Anyway, there's no question that the rule was broken here. Don't criticize the stupid Kimi fans if you're going to be just as partial when it comes to your dear Alonso.

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Post by Joey Zyla » 03 Nov 2013, 14:54

François wrote:
mikhailv wrote:If Alonso gets a penalty for that, F1 is a disgrace.
The disgrace will be if he doesn't.

Vergne had the racing line, and you don't get priority when exiting the pitlane, ever. Alonso had the option of backing down, instead he chose to go all four beyond the edge. He should be thankful there isn't a gravel trap there.

Rather than consider post-race penalties, though, I don't get why race control doesn't immediately instruct drivers to return the position. Anyway, there's no question that the rule was broken here. Don't criticize the stupid Kimi fans if you're going to be just as partial when it comes to your dear Alonso.

Geez why even bother with you.
You don't have to remind us that Vergne is French.

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Post by Treacle » 03 Nov 2013, 14:56

Joey Zyla wrote:You don't have to remind us that Vergne is French.
This was uncalled for. He gave a perfectly reasonable explanation and he is right.

The race was pretty boring, and I think it's unfair that the driver gets penalized for unsafe release. There went Hulk's good result...
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Post by François » 03 Nov 2013, 15:00

Joey Zyla wrote:You don't have to remind us that Vergne is French.
I don't care. Vergne didn't get a result, and wouldn't have regardless of that specific incident's outcome. I'm more bothered by double standards and how certain drivers seem to get away with more than others, particularly when it comes to the touchy issue of track limits. Try addressing those points instead of looking for national bias?
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 03 Nov 2013, 15:01

I'd like to see another replay. Whoever is ahead at the final pit exit line has priority.


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Post by François » 03 Nov 2013, 15:13

phil1993 wrote:I know what I'm doing!
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Post by Ferrariman60 » 03 Nov 2013, 15:20

I think the Alonso/Vergne investigation really is indicative of how ambiguous track limits have become. Yes, the white lines are the standard, but, as we've seen time and time again, there's absolutely no penalty (no gravel trap, barrier) for going off.

I'm not saying that maybe we need to have armco right next to the track, but, if we're going to keep having circuits which are little more than chalk lines drawn on skidpans, drivers crossing over the imaginary track "limit" is something which is going to keep happening. Maybe gravel traps were a good thing - they were a physical deterrent to drivers leaving the racing surface.
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 03 Nov 2013, 15:21

Vergne was ahead so I reckon Alonso could be in trouble.
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Post by Vlad-SRB » 03 Nov 2013, 15:29

Vettel THE MAN! Amazing drive once again! Destroyed the field, really!!! :)

Some crazy strategies today and some crazy stewarding today as well. Alonso MUST be penalized for that, it's a clear rule break. Also, Maldonado, WTF? And they punish Hulk again... Unfair.

All in all, Vettel is on his way to break some more records! :)
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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Post by Ferrari92 » 03 Nov 2013, 15:35

65 consecutives Grands Prix in points for Ferrari, new record!

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Re: 2013 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Post by mikhailv » 03 Nov 2013, 16:03

Thing is, why did vergne crowd Alonso? I thought if you had front wing alongside rear wheel its yours?

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