2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Who will win the 2012 Singapore Grand Prix?

Fernando Alonso
8
27%
Lewis Hamilton
6
20%
Kimi Räikkönen
4
13%
Sebastian Vettel
7
23%
Mark Webber
1
3%
Jenson Button
2
7%
Nico Rosberg
0
No votes
Romain Grosjean
0
No votes
Sergio Perez
1
3%
Felipe Massa
0
No votes
Michael Schumacher
1
3%
Other
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 30

User avatar
donald29
F1 Routinier
F1 Routinier
Posts: 4007
Joined: 25 May 2007, 17:52
Location: Kent

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by donald29 » 23 Sep 2012, 19:16

He f*** up in Spain and today. He's run into the back of slower cars too many times. It's beginning to look a problem. But he's shown some good race craft at times as well. Some excellent defence in Silverstone, Germany and Spa and has pulled off some nice feisty moves as well. Raikkonen in Spa and Hulkenberg in Germany for example. There is some good race craft still there.
Last edited by donald29 on 23 Sep 2012, 19:18, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
phil1993
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 25503
Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 17:32
Contact:

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 23 Sep 2012, 19:18

I just wonder if some of it is experience of the track and age. I mean, his Singapore record is utterly atrocious!

User avatar
donald29
F1 Routinier
F1 Routinier
Posts: 4007
Joined: 25 May 2007, 17:52
Location: Kent

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by donald29 » 23 Sep 2012, 19:20

I don't know, it's odd he's been involved in one collision that's his fault every year in Singapore and an additional one that wasn't in 2010. When he's driven into the back of cars it's when they've been braking early on old tyres and he's been caught out. It's happened to other drivers, but only once. No one else has done it 3 times in 12 months. Perhaps in that situation the reactions aren't great. But it's only in those situations the reactions have looked bad.

User avatar
phil1993
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 25503
Joined: 29 Sep 2007, 17:32
Contact:

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by phil1993 » 23 Sep 2012, 19:34

What's incredible is you can say Lewis has lost points in:

Australia, China, Bahrain, Spain, Valencia, Germany, Belgium and Singapore.

And only in Valencia can he be given a small bit of blame. The other is the fault of McLaren or poor luck.

User avatar
tderias
PL Manager
PL Manager
Posts: 1696
Joined: 06 Jun 2011, 14:59

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by tderias » 23 Sep 2012, 21:34

phil1993 wrote:What's incredible is you can say Lewis has lost points in:

Australia, China, Bahrain, Spain, Valencia, Germany, Belgium and Singapore.

And only in Valencia can he be given a small bit of blame. The other is the fault of McLaren or poor luck.


You are correct. But still doesn't pay off the luck he exhausted in Brazil 2008. :lol:

Joking aside, I think luck balances out for everyone at the end, whether in their F1 career or not. That's just my opinion though.

User avatar
donald29
F1 Routinier
F1 Routinier
Posts: 4007
Joined: 25 May 2007, 17:52
Location: Kent

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by donald29 » 23 Sep 2012, 22:09

Someone uploaded the latest episode of Tooned on YouTube. Someone commented 'Maybe McLaren need to spend less time making this rubbish and more time working on their reliability if they're going to win this year's title?' Someone else responded 'You know that McLaren don't actually make their mechanics and engineers work on this right?' Made me laugh. :lol:


User avatar
Adam
Kart Champion
Kart Champion
Posts: 121
Joined: 16 Nov 2011, 02:20
Location: Madrid A.C.

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by Adam » 24 Sep 2012, 14:00

I must be evilness or something but when I saw Michael crashing like that on Vergne, I couldn't resist in dropping a laugh.

User avatar
mikhailv
F1 Routinier
F1 Routinier
Posts: 4110
Joined: 31 Mar 2008, 15:27
Location: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by mikhailv » 24 Sep 2012, 14:25

tderias wrote:
phil1993 wrote:What's incredible is you can say Lewis has lost points in:

Australia, China, Bahrain, Spain, Valencia, Germany, Belgium and Singapore.

And only in Valencia can he be given a small bit of blame. The other is the fault of McLaren or poor luck.


You are correct. But still doesn't pay off the luck he exhausted in Brazil 2008. :lol:

Joking aside, I think luck balances out for everyone at the end, whether in their F1 career or not. That's just my opinion though.


To be honest, its balancing from last year. He caused the team to lose a huge haul of points, this year its the other way round. 2008 Lewis didnt need luck really, he was against massa who had the first two races as retirments which were a guaranteed 12 points, ontop of Lewis having 6 penalties, and Massa failing in Silverstone and his engine blowing as well.

Lewis just made an utter meal out of that year.

User avatar
JoostLamers
F1 Champion
F1 Champion
Posts: 11852
Joined: 25 May 2007, 21:38
Location: Tilburg
Contact:

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by JoostLamers » 24 Sep 2012, 19:11

:wave:

Waving goodbye to Lewis' title
<<<The flag Lew1s waved at
Image

User avatar
lealjaime
F1 Rookie
F1 Rookie
Posts: 504
Joined: 14 Mar 2008, 08:01
Location: Monterrey, MX.

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by lealjaime » 24 Sep 2012, 19:15

JoostLamers wrote::wave:

Waving goodbye to Lewis' title




maybe with this result lewis change team for the next year.
Image
Ferrari Rules!!!!!!

User avatar
mikhailv
F1 Routinier
F1 Routinier
Posts: 4110
Joined: 31 Mar 2008, 15:27
Location: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by mikhailv » 25 Sep 2012, 08:11

I want lewis at Ferrari. Wont happen. I dont think either of them truly want to be up against each other. Would be epic though!

Otherwise, I think lewis will be Alonso's ally in the next few races.

User avatar
donald29
F1 Routinier
F1 Routinier
Posts: 4007
Joined: 25 May 2007, 17:52
Location: Kent

Re: 2012 Formula 1 Singtel Singapore Grand Prix

Post by donald29 » 30 Sep 2012, 12:07

Fan filmed videos always give a better impression of what it's like to be at a race than TV, particularly from a sound point of view. Here's a fan view of Schumacher hitting Vergne with the raw sound.


Locked