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Post by Kriss » 26 Sep 2011, 11:38

luieluv wrote:Thanks a ton iceman 1. Brilliant article from autosport for a change and it clearly states how kimi was sidelined in 08.


+1 :thumbsup:

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Post by sleenster » 26 Sep 2011, 14:25

iceman1 wrote:
luieluv wrote:Autosport Plus artice. Any access to this one sleenie?

Why signing Raikkonen is not a risk

- http://plus.autosport.com/premium/featu ... ot-a-risk/

Here we go

Spoiler:
With Kimi Raikkonen rumoured to be in the frame for a return to F1 with Williams next year, Tony Dodgins says bringing the enigmatic 2007 world champion back to the sport would bring only minimal risk

All the early news and gossip in Singapore was alliterative – kerbs, curfews and Kimi.

You can never get too excited about kerbs. Okay, they delayed practice and looked like they might become a nuisance, but you knew they'd be sorted.

Why were they dislodging this year when they hadn't before? It seems that the same fixing points and bolts were being used and the threads were becoming a little second-hand, not assisted by over-enthusiastic use of hammers by the locals.

The strategy most adopt for Singapore is to stay on European time. Keep going until 5-6am, go to bed, remember to switch on the 'do not disturb' light, get up around 1pm, shower and head into the circuit.

For race-team personnel these days, there is a curfew to observe. The F1 sporting regulations say, 'No team personnel who are associated in any way with the operation of the cars are allowed into the circuit during one six-hour period which commences nine hours before the start time of practice'.

The rule is there due to F1's resource-restriction agreement which, these days, limits teams to 47 such personnel. Such is the intensity of F1 that it was easy to envisage race crews working constant all-nighters if it were allowed. And nobody really wants zombies preparing race cars.

So, on a 'normal' race weekend, you make a mental note not to arrive at the paddock gate at 7am on a Friday or 8am on a Saturday, or else you are queued up behind the world and his wife at the electronic swipe gate as the whole paddock arrives en masse, champing at the bit.

Normally they all arrive together in team minibuses. In Singapore though, many of the hotels are within walking distance so you can be a bit more individualistic about your arrival.

First one to fall foul of the unusual Singapore timings and/or his maths, was Toro Rosso team principal Franz Tost, who arrived early for work on Friday and accidentally broke the curfew.

You're allowed to break it four times in a season, to repair a crashed car for instance, and when someone does the FIA issues a bulletin to inform everyone.

Coming in early on Saturday, we passed the Virgin PR girl heading in the opposite direction.

"Going shopping?" we joked.

But she was looking concerned, having been ejected from the paddock. Not so long afterwards came an FIA missive that the Virgin and Mercedes teams had broken the curfew because PR/marketing staff were at the circuit before they were supposed to be.

When we got to our desks in the press room, one of our colleagues was looking a bit sheepish.

"Oops…" he said, "I saw her coming in, they'd put a load of barriers in the way and I held her bag while she climbed over. I told her that marketing staff didn't count and she was fine to go in."

That's what half the paddock thought as well.

"It's completely bonkers," someone said. "How can Virgin's PR girl be deemed to be involved in the operation of the car?"

Cue a cheap but amusing shot from the opposite side of the desk: "Don't know. But she probably should be. Bet she could find more downforce than Nick Wirth!"

Truth told, the poor girl felt dreadful. Right spoiled her day it did. And Ross Brawn was less than impressed too, saying that the rules needed clarification.

There was a happy ending when the FIA agreed that it was indeed barmy and rescinded the curfew breakages. All except Franz Tost's.

Kimi; Raikkonen, that is. He's been sighted at Williams of course and the rumour mill is churning faster. Will he be back in the F1 paddock in 2012, bolstering the ranks of active world champions to a record six?

I wouldn't bet against it. I shouldn't image he was at Grove to discuss the purchase of a KERS system for his bicycle, even if Cosworth has built the very thing.

Raikkonen obviously did not leave F1 on his own terms. Ferrari elected to pay him off a year early and take Fernando Alonso. Many in F1 believe that Alonso is the best driver out there, even if the 2011-spec Sebastian Vettel is making them think twice.

Talking to a Ferrari man in Singapore, there is no doubting the 2007 world champion's speed or talent. It's just that Raikkonen didn't pick up and lead a team, galvanise it, in the way that Alonso does.

A Ferrari team used to dealing with Michael Schumacher for so long was amazed by both Raikkonen's pace and his immediate grasp of Ferrari technical systems in 2007. It seemed there was spare mental capacity by the bucket load.

But, they say, the real Kimi is not the Kimi of popular perception. The so-called Ice Man, unfazed by anything, impervious to outside influences and very much his own man, is an illusion.

Thinking back, they say, Raikkonen did not feel comfortable when he thought Felipe Massa was becoming Ferrari's favoured son in 2008. While he doesn't need mollycoddling, he does need to feel that a team is behind him.

By way of example they say, Kimi, disappointing early in '09, was a different driver after Massa's unfortunate accident in Hungary involving the rogue spring.

The focus of the team again, Raikkonen was awesome in the second half of the year with a car that was not one of Maranello's best, taking podiums while Luca Badoer and then Giancarlo Fisichella were struggling to get the other car out of Q1.

There can be no doubt that Pastor Maldonado will be in one Williams next year. Team chairman Adam Parr can no doubt think of millions of good reasons why, but outgoing technical chief Sam Michael has been impressed with the Venezuelan in the cockpit, too.

Including Singapore, Rubens Barrichello is just 8-6 ahead in their personal qualifying battle and Michael says: "I'm happy with Pastor. He came into the team as a GP2 champion, he's run Rubens pretty close all year and I rate Rubens.

"I think Pastor will be much better again in his second year, knowing all the circuits. His first four races were pretty rough but that's what you get with a rookie. He definitely deserves his place in F1, there's no doubt about that."

With Barrichello, you know what you are going to get. Sam, with just a few hours of his Williams career remaining when I spoke to him, wasn't about to embroil himself in the Raikkonen gossip, over which it seems there had been a 'no comment' edict from Grove.

"My personal opinion, which is not a Williams opinion," he said, "is that it would be great to see Kimi back in F1 because he's a good personality, a world champion and obviously a quick driver."

Some wouldn't necessarily concur on the personality side but you'd struggle to find anyone who thinks it would be a risk by Williams on the driving front, presuming that Raikkonen would drive for less than his usual king's ransom.

One man with a good feel for these things is Jackie Stewart.

"It's true that Kimi's only been used to McLaren and Ferrari," JYS said in Singapore, "but I think it's worth a shot. He's one hell of a driver and I think he'd be good."

Thanks :) you beat me to it :p

Edit: Liked the second half of the article, didn't see the point of the first half :huh:

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by amoljoshi » 26 Sep 2011, 15:04

sleenster wrote:
iceman1 wrote:
luieluv wrote:Autosport Plus artice. Any access to this one sleenie?

Why signing Raikkonen is not a risk

- http://plus.autosport.com/premium/featu ... ot-a-risk/

Here we go

Spoiler:
With Kimi Raikkonen rumoured to be in the frame for a return to F1 with Williams next year, Tony Dodgins says bringing the enigmatic 2007 world champion back to the sport would bring only minimal risk

All the early news and gossip in Singapore was alliterative – kerbs, curfews and Kimi.

You can never get too excited about kerbs. Okay, they delayed practice and looked like they might become a nuisance, but you knew they'd be sorted.

Why were they dislodging this year when they hadn't before? It seems that the same fixing points and bolts were being used and the threads were becoming a little second-hand, not assisted by over-enthusiastic use of hammers by the locals.

The strategy most adopt for Singapore is to stay on European time. Keep going until 5-6am, go to bed, remember to switch on the 'do not disturb' light, get up around 1pm, shower and head into the circuit.

For race-team personnel these days, there is a curfew to observe. The F1 sporting regulations say, 'No team personnel who are associated in any way with the operation of the cars are allowed into the circuit during one six-hour period which commences nine hours before the start time of practice'.

The rule is there due to F1's resource-restriction agreement which, these days, limits teams to 47 such personnel. Such is the intensity of F1 that it was easy to envisage race crews working constant all-nighters if it were allowed. And nobody really wants zombies preparing race cars.

So, on a 'normal' race weekend, you make a mental note not to arrive at the paddock gate at 7am on a Friday or 8am on a Saturday, or else you are queued up behind the world and his wife at the electronic swipe gate as the whole paddock arrives en masse, champing at the bit.

Normally they all arrive together in team minibuses. In Singapore though, many of the hotels are within walking distance so you can be a bit more individualistic about your arrival.

First one to fall foul of the unusual Singapore timings and/or his maths, was Toro Rosso team principal Franz Tost, who arrived early for work on Friday and accidentally broke the curfew.

You're allowed to break it four times in a season, to repair a crashed car for instance, and when someone does the FIA issues a bulletin to inform everyone.

Coming in early on Saturday, we passed the Virgin PR girl heading in the opposite direction.

"Going shopping?" we joked.

But she was looking concerned, having been ejected from the paddock. Not so long afterwards came an FIA missive that the Virgin and Mercedes teams had broken the curfew because PR/marketing staff were at the circuit before they were supposed to be.

When we got to our desks in the press room, one of our colleagues was looking a bit sheepish.

"Oops…" he said, "I saw her coming in, they'd put a load of barriers in the way and I held her bag while she climbed over. I told her that marketing staff didn't count and she was fine to go in."

That's what half the paddock thought as well.

"It's completely bonkers," someone said. "How can Virgin's PR girl be deemed to be involved in the operation of the car?"

Cue a cheap but amusing shot from the opposite side of the desk: "Don't know. But she probably should be. Bet she could find more downforce than Nick Wirth!"

Truth told, the poor girl felt dreadful. Right spoiled her day it did. And Ross Brawn was less than impressed too, saying that the rules needed clarification.

There was a happy ending when the FIA agreed that it was indeed barmy and rescinded the curfew breakages. All except Franz Tost's.

Kimi; Raikkonen, that is. He's been sighted at Williams of course and the rumour mill is churning faster. Will he be back in the F1 paddock in 2012, bolstering the ranks of active world champions to a record six?

I wouldn't bet against it. I shouldn't image he was at Grove to discuss the purchase of a KERS system for his bicycle, even if Cosworth has built the very thing.

Raikkonen obviously did not leave F1 on his own terms. Ferrari elected to pay him off a year early and take Fernando Alonso. Many in F1 believe that Alonso is the best driver out there, even if the 2011-spec Sebastian Vettel is making them think twice.

Talking to a Ferrari man in Singapore, there is no doubting the 2007 world champion's speed or talent. It's just that Raikkonen didn't pick up and lead a team, galvanise it, in the way that Alonso does.

A Ferrari team used to dealing with Michael Schumacher for so long was amazed by both Raikkonen's pace and his immediate grasp of Ferrari technical systems in 2007. It seemed there was spare mental capacity by the bucket load.

But, they say, the real Kimi is not the Kimi of popular perception. The so-called Ice Man, unfazed by anything, impervious to outside influences and very much his own man, is an illusion.

Thinking back, they say, Raikkonen did not feel comfortable when he thought Felipe Massa was becoming Ferrari's favoured son in 2008. While he doesn't need mollycoddling, he does need to feel that a team is behind him.

By way of example they say, Kimi, disappointing early in '09, was a different driver after Massa's unfortunate accident in Hungary involving the rogue spring.

The focus of the team again, Raikkonen was awesome in the second half of the year with a car that was not one of Maranello's best, taking podiums while Luca Badoer and then Giancarlo Fisichella were struggling to get the other car out of Q1.

There can be no doubt that Pastor Maldonado will be in one Williams next year. Team chairman Adam Parr can no doubt think of millions of good reasons why, but outgoing technical chief Sam Michael has been impressed with the Venezuelan in the cockpit, too.

Including Singapore, Rubens Barrichello is just 8-6 ahead in their personal qualifying battle and Michael says: "I'm happy with Pastor. He came into the team as a GP2 champion, he's run Rubens pretty close all year and I rate Rubens.

"I think Pastor will be much better again in his second year, knowing all the circuits. His first four races were pretty rough but that's what you get with a rookie. He definitely deserves his place in F1, there's no doubt about that."

With Barrichello, you know what you are going to get. Sam, with just a few hours of his Williams career remaining when I spoke to him, wasn't about to embroil himself in the Raikkonen gossip, over which it seems there had been a 'no comment' edict from Grove.

"My personal opinion, which is not a Williams opinion," he said, "is that it would be great to see Kimi back in F1 because he's a good personality, a world champion and obviously a quick driver."

Some wouldn't necessarily concur on the personality side but you'd struggle to find anyone who thinks it would be a risk by Williams on the driving front, presuming that Raikkonen would drive for less than his usual king's ransom.

One man with a good feel for these things is Jackie Stewart.

"It's true that Kimi's only been used to McLaren and Ferrari," JYS said in Singapore, "but I think it's worth a shot. He's one hell of a driver and I think he'd be good."

Thanks :) you beat me to it :p

Edit: Liked the second half of the article, didn't see the point of the first half :huh:


In the first half he was trying to be funny.. :lol:

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by sleenster » 26 Sep 2011, 15:31

amoljoshi wrote:
sleenster wrote:
iceman1 wrote:
luieluv wrote:Autosport Plus artice. Any access to this one sleenie?

Why signing Raikkonen is not a risk

- http://plus.autosport.com/premium/featu ... ot-a-risk/

Here we go

Spoiler:
With Kimi Raikkonen rumoured to be in the frame for a return to F1 with Williams next year, Tony Dodgins says bringing the enigmatic 2007 world champion back to the sport would bring only minimal risk

All the early news and gossip in Singapore was alliterative – kerbs, curfews and Kimi.

You can never get too excited about kerbs. Okay, they delayed practice and looked like they might become a nuisance, but you knew they'd be sorted.

Why were they dislodging this year when they hadn't before? It seems that the same fixing points and bolts were being used and the threads were becoming a little second-hand, not assisted by over-enthusiastic use of hammers by the locals.

The strategy most adopt for Singapore is to stay on European time. Keep going until 5-6am, go to bed, remember to switch on the 'do not disturb' light, get up around 1pm, shower and head into the circuit.

For race-team personnel these days, there is a curfew to observe. The F1 sporting regulations say, 'No team personnel who are associated in any way with the operation of the cars are allowed into the circuit during one six-hour period which commences nine hours before the start time of practice'.

The rule is there due to F1's resource-restriction agreement which, these days, limits teams to 47 such personnel. Such is the intensity of F1 that it was easy to envisage race crews working constant all-nighters if it were allowed. And nobody really wants zombies preparing race cars.

So, on a 'normal' race weekend, you make a mental note not to arrive at the paddock gate at 7am on a Friday or 8am on a Saturday, or else you are queued up behind the world and his wife at the electronic swipe gate as the whole paddock arrives en masse, champing at the bit.

Normally they all arrive together in team minibuses. In Singapore though, many of the hotels are within walking distance so you can be a bit more individualistic about your arrival.

First one to fall foul of the unusual Singapore timings and/or his maths, was Toro Rosso team principal Franz Tost, who arrived early for work on Friday and accidentally broke the curfew.

You're allowed to break it four times in a season, to repair a crashed car for instance, and when someone does the FIA issues a bulletin to inform everyone.

Coming in early on Saturday, we passed the Virgin PR girl heading in the opposite direction.

"Going shopping?" we joked.

But she was looking concerned, having been ejected from the paddock. Not so long afterwards came an FIA missive that the Virgin and Mercedes teams had broken the curfew because PR/marketing staff were at the circuit before they were supposed to be.

When we got to our desks in the press room, one of our colleagues was looking a bit sheepish.

"Oops…" he said, "I saw her coming in, they'd put a load of barriers in the way and I held her bag while she climbed over. I told her that marketing staff didn't count and she was fine to go in."

That's what half the paddock thought as well.

"It's completely bonkers," someone said. "How can Virgin's PR girl be deemed to be involved in the operation of the car?"

Cue a cheap but amusing shot from the opposite side of the desk: "Don't know. But she probably should be. Bet she could find more downforce than Nick Wirth!"

Truth told, the poor girl felt dreadful. Right spoiled her day it did. And Ross Brawn was less than impressed too, saying that the rules needed clarification.

There was a happy ending when the FIA agreed that it was indeed barmy and rescinded the curfew breakages. All except Franz Tost's.

Kimi; Raikkonen, that is. He's been sighted at Williams of course and the rumour mill is churning faster. Will he be back in the F1 paddock in 2012, bolstering the ranks of active world champions to a record six?

I wouldn't bet against it. I shouldn't image he was at Grove to discuss the purchase of a KERS system for his bicycle, even if Cosworth has built the very thing.

Raikkonen obviously did not leave F1 on his own terms. Ferrari elected to pay him off a year early and take Fernando Alonso. Many in F1 believe that Alonso is the best driver out there, even if the 2011-spec Sebastian Vettel is making them think twice.

Talking to a Ferrari man in Singapore, there is no doubting the 2007 world champion's speed or talent. It's just that Raikkonen didn't pick up and lead a team, galvanise it, in the way that Alonso does.

A Ferrari team used to dealing with Michael Schumacher for so long was amazed by both Raikkonen's pace and his immediate grasp of Ferrari technical systems in 2007. It seemed there was spare mental capacity by the bucket load.

But, they say, the real Kimi is not the Kimi of popular perception. The so-called Ice Man, unfazed by anything, impervious to outside influences and very much his own man, is an illusion.

Thinking back, they say, Raikkonen did not feel comfortable when he thought Felipe Massa was becoming Ferrari's favoured son in 2008. While he doesn't need mollycoddling, he does need to feel that a team is behind him.

By way of example they say, Kimi, disappointing early in '09, was a different driver after Massa's unfortunate accident in Hungary involving the rogue spring.

The focus of the team again, Raikkonen was awesome in the second half of the year with a car that was not one of Maranello's best, taking podiums while Luca Badoer and then Giancarlo Fisichella were struggling to get the other car out of Q1.

There can be no doubt that Pastor Maldonado will be in one Williams next year. Team chairman Adam Parr can no doubt think of millions of good reasons why, but outgoing technical chief Sam Michael has been impressed with the Venezuelan in the cockpit, too.

Including Singapore, Rubens Barrichello is just 8-6 ahead in their personal qualifying battle and Michael says: "I'm happy with Pastor. He came into the team as a GP2 champion, he's run Rubens pretty close all year and I rate Rubens.

"I think Pastor will be much better again in his second year, knowing all the circuits. His first four races were pretty rough but that's what you get with a rookie. He definitely deserves his place in F1, there's no doubt about that."

With Barrichello, you know what you are going to get. Sam, with just a few hours of his Williams career remaining when I spoke to him, wasn't about to embroil himself in the Raikkonen gossip, over which it seems there had been a 'no comment' edict from Grove.

"My personal opinion, which is not a Williams opinion," he said, "is that it would be great to see Kimi back in F1 because he's a good personality, a world champion and obviously a quick driver."

Some wouldn't necessarily concur on the personality side but you'd struggle to find anyone who thinks it would be a risk by Williams on the driving front, presuming that Raikkonen would drive for less than his usual king's ransom.

One man with a good feel for these things is Jackie Stewart.

"It's true that Kimi's only been used to McLaren and Ferrari," JYS said in Singapore, "but I think it's worth a shot. He's one hell of a driver and I think he'd be good."

Thanks :) you beat me to it :p

Edit: Liked the second half of the article, didn't see the point of the first half :huh:


In the first half he was trying to be funny.. :lol:

My sense of humor seems to be broken.. :confused: :blush:

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Post by iceman1 » 26 Sep 2011, 15:51

sleenster wrote:Edit: Liked the second half of the article, didn't see the point of the first half :huh:

In Singapore there were 3 major points : The Kerbs (which delayed the FP1 by 30 mins), the curfews (Teams are allowed to break it 4 times this season). and Kimi. He started to explain the first 2 points before talking about Kimi.

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Post by zoefrances » 26 Sep 2011, 17:49

great article iceman.

can't wait to see what kimi does next year

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Post by Kriss » 26 Sep 2011, 18:41

zoefrances wrote:great article iceman.

can't wait to see what kimi does next year


knowing Kimi it's gonna be a loooong wait :O

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Post by Mar » 26 Sep 2011, 20:06

my bet is around January, as usual :roll::

PS, thanks, Iceman

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Post by Kriss » 26 Sep 2011, 20:10

Mar wrote:my bet is around January, as usual :roll::

PS, thanks, Iceman


shouldn't he sign something before that? :huh: I mean IF he won't stay in WRC.

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Post by sarnee_ice » 27 Sep 2011, 06:45

OFFICIAL ICE ONE RACING RALLY VEHICLE :)
Posted on September 26, 2011
To start of this Monday, we’d like to give you a first view of the Official Ice One Racing Rally vehicle. All graphic from the game used on this blog will also be uploaded to our Flickr account at Flickr.com/photos/24mas; so don’t forget to check it out!
http://kimi.24mas.com/archives/161

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Post by amoljoshi » 27 Sep 2011, 07:25

iceman1 wrote:
sleenster wrote:Edit: Liked the second half of the article, didn't see the point of the first half :huh:

In Singapore there were 3 major points : The Kerbs (which delayed the FP1 by 30 mins), the curfews (Teams are allowed to break it 4 times this season). and Kimi. He started to explain the first 2 points before talking about Kimi.

yep...

So writer was just quoting random (useless for us) stuff before coming to the important topic.. :p

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Post by YiNing » 27 Sep 2011, 17:54

sarnee_ice wrote:OFFICIAL ICE ONE RACING RALLY VEHICLE :)
Posted on September 26, 2011
To start of this Monday, we’d like to give you a first view of the Official Ice One Racing Rally vehicle. All graphic from the game used on this blog will also be uploaded to our Flickr account at Flickr.com/photos/24mas; so don’t forget to check it out!
http://kimi.24mas.com/archives/161

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Thanks!! :thumbsup:
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Post by sleenster » 27 Sep 2011, 19:12

Good article to read, even if it is in French :thumbsup: use google translate if you don't speak French :p
http://www.omnizine.fr/sports/raikkonen ... ms-f1-2012

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Post by YiNing » 27 Sep 2011, 19:49

sleenster wrote:Good article to read, even if it is in French :thumbsup: use google translate if you don't speak French :p
http://www.omnizine.fr/sports/raikkonen ... ms-f1-2012


Thanks Sleen :thumbsup:
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Post by Kriss » 27 Sep 2011, 19:53

sleenster wrote:Good article to read, even if it is in French :thumbsup: use google translate if you don't speak French :p
http://www.omnizine.fr/sports/raikkonen ... ms-f1-2012


thanks a lot sleenie :hug:
great read :thumbsup:

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