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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by F1Fan88 » 16 Sep 2011, 09:32

NVirkkula wrote:Williams has confirmed that Kimi Räikkönen paid a personal visit to their factory last week. The speculations in Finnish media are wild at the moment.

So far we know that:

- Ice One Racing has withdrawn from WRC and has given a fine and has been excluded from the teams championship points
- No new NASCAR deals that anyone would know
- For 2013 season, Massa, Schumacher and Webber will see the end of their current contracts

Therefore if Räikkönen would race in 2012 season for any team, the managers of the current top four teams would see that Kimi still has it and is motivated to be racing again.

Then again, it could be like what Renault did with Kimi last year - pump up the hype and get more money from the sponsors backing their pay-drivers seat which was never threaten in the first place.

Or it could be like Senna at McLaren in 1993, race by race deal until something much better comes around.

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by Mar » 16 Sep 2011, 14:32

F1Fan88 wrote:
NVirkkula wrote:Williams has confirmed that Kimi Räikkönen paid a personal visit to their factory last week. The speculations in Finnish media are wild at the moment.

So far we know that:

- Ice One Racing has withdrawn from WRC and has given a fine and has been excluded from the teams championship points
- No new NASCAR deals that anyone would know
- For 2013 season, Massa, Schumacher and Webber will see the end of their current contracts

Therefore if Räikkönen would race in 2012 season for any team, the managers of the current top four teams would see that Kimi still has it and is motivated to be racing again.

Then again, it could be like what Renault did with Kimi last year - pump up the hype and get more money from the sponsors backing their pay-drivers seat which was never threaten in the first place.

Or it could be like Senna at McLaren in 1993, race by race deal until something much better comes around.
The bolded part is not correct. IceOne has withdrawn from nothing.

The thing with the teams and the manufacturers is kafkian and pretty hard to explain.

The WRC only has 2 manufacturers and the FIA is ashamed of publishing a manufacturers' classification with only two names on it. Therefore they thought: "hey! why don't we include teams in the manufacturers' championships so we can fill a longer table and we can get a bit of money from them". That's the main reason we have manufacturers with two cars doing all the rallies of the season in the same results table as teams with only one car and doing only 7 rallies a season.

Some privateers don't enter the manufacturers' championship even if they know they're going to do many rallies in a season. And it's not so weird to have a privateer not doing all the rallies they were supposed to do. Let's see if Munchi's in the list at the end of the season. The team-owner (and Villagra's co-driver) has some personal issues at the moment and can't go to the rallies. Therefore, they haven't go to the last few ones and might not have the necessary 7 rallies at the end of the season.

And IceOne has not withdrawn from the championship, they didn't go to Australia, what makes them uneligible for manufacturers' points because they were in only one rally outside Europe, but Kimi is supposed to enter the rest of the rallies of the season with IceOne.

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by sleenster » 16 Sep 2011, 15:32

Honestly, I can't even begin to imagine why Kimi would want to visit the Williams factory and why he would want to drive for a low midfield team. :blink:

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by Mar » 16 Sep 2011, 15:42

sleenster wrote:Honestly, I can't even begin to imagine why Kimi would want to visit the Williams factory and why he would want to drive for a low midfield team. :blink:
Talk is about supercars, not F1
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2681 ... s-factory/

It could be business, it could be his interest for endurance racing... With this guy, you never know :p

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by sleenster » 16 Sep 2011, 15:45

Mar wrote:
sleenster wrote:Honestly, I can't even begin to imagine why Kimi would want to visit the Williams factory and why he would want to drive for a low midfield team. :blink:
Talk is about supercars, not F1
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2681 ... s-factory/

It could be business, it could be his interest for endurance racing... With this guy, you never know :p
I hope he's not bored of driving WRC cars already :confused:

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by luieluv » 17 Sep 2011, 14:16

sleenster wrote:
Mar wrote:
sleenster wrote:Honestly, I can't even begin to imagine why Kimi would want to visit the Williams factory and why he would want to drive for a low midfield team. :blink:
Talk is about supercars, not F1
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2681 ... s-factory/

It could be business, it could be his interest for endurance racing... With this guy, you never know :p
I hope he's not bored of driving WRC cars already :confused:
:pray:
So its gonna be a mix of Ravishing Black and White for Kimi Raikkonen this season

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by luieluv » 17 Sep 2011, 15:24

The real story: Raikkonen, Williams and Sutil…

September 17, 2011 by joesaward

There has been lots of talk in recent days about a visit by Kimi Raikkonen to Williams F1 in Grove. There is no question that this took place, but it was not as recently as some stories seem to suggest, but rather in the gap between the Belgian and Italian Grands Prix. It is not credible that his visit to Williams was a private one. Williams is looking for drivers for next year and now is the right time for such discussions to be taking place. The fact that Raikkonen was not the only unusual face spotted at Grove underlines this. The other man to drop by was Adrian Sutil, the Force India driver.

There is no doubt that Williams is looking around to decide what to do. It could keep Rubens Barrichello, but the relationship has not been an easy one and it has not been successful on the track. Pastor Maldonado will stay, if only because he brings a large sum of cash with him from PDVSA. That deal may be somewhat dependent on the future of the country’s president Hugo Chaves, but it is solid – and Williams needs solid money for the future.

Sutil is quick, but he is not famous for his technical abilities (nor is Maldonado come to that), but he has the added bonus of coming with money from Medion computers. This was bought recently by the Chinese firm Lenovo, but the restructuring since then seems to suggest a bigger involvement in the sport, rather than a reduction. Lenovo recently took on Gianfranco Lanci, a former CEO of Acer, as a consultant to help develop its consumer PC business. Lanci is from Turin and rose through the ranks of Texas Instruments and was appointed MD of Acer Italy when TI and Acer did a deal in 1997. He became president of Acer Europe three years later and soon afterwards agreed a deal to name Prost Grand Prix’s Ferrari engines Acers. After Prost closed Acer became a Ferrari partner. Lanci moved up to run the entire business, but left the company recently. His focus will be Lenovo’s integration of Medion.

A motivated Kimi would be a powerful weapon for Williams, which has struggled in the doldrums this year and is last of the established F1 teams. But Kimi is not going to be bringing cash and so it would have to be seen as a risk to try to attract other sponsors. The team is in the process of rebuilding. It has hired a new technical team and while there is a certain amount of doubt about the appointment of Mike Coughlan as the man in charge, there is no doubt that Coughlan has designed some decent cars over the years. New aerodynamicist Jason Somerville is highly rated and Mark Gillan is a solid pair of hands when it comes to applying science to motor racing. The team has signed a deal with Renault and that means that next year Williams ought to be back in the hunt in the mid-grid and not in the current mess. What will turn the team back into a stronger force is good leadership. Success brings cash in F1 so the aim of the team should be to climb as high as possible in the Constructors’ Championship.

Kimi left F1 two years ago, wanting to do something else. He has done two seasons in the World Rally Championship and made a limited impression and then he popped up in NASCAR, although that seemed to be another false start. The signs are that he is thinking more about getting back into F1, if he can. He is only 31 but his lack of interest in his final year at Ferrari did not leave a good impression. It was felt that he had achieved his ambition and won a World Championship and did not seem particularly motivated to win another. Getting back into F1 was always going to be a challenge, as was seen when Renault F1 decided on Nick Heidfeld rather than Kimi. Whether Kimi is the right man to lead a Williams revival is an arguable point, but it might be a good move.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/09/ ... and-sutil/
So its gonna be a mix of Ravishing Black and White for Kimi Raikkonen this season

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by amoljoshi » 17 Sep 2011, 15:48

luieluv wrote:
sleenster wrote:
Mar wrote:
sleenster wrote:Honestly, I can't even begin to imagine why Kimi would want to visit the Williams factory and why he would want to drive for a low midfield team. :blink:
Talk is about supercars, not F1
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2681 ... s-factory/

It could be business, it could be his interest for endurance racing... With this guy, you never know :p
I hope he's not bored of driving WRC cars already :confused:
:pray:
:pray:

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by Claudie_Schnaudie » 17 Sep 2011, 16:23

luieluv wrote:
The real story: Raikkonen, Williams and Sutil…

September 17, 2011 by joesaward

There has been lots of talk in recent days about a visit by Kimi Raikkonen to Williams F1 in Grove. There is no question that this took place, but it was not as recently as some stories seem to suggest, but rather in the gap between the Belgian and Italian Grands Prix. It is not credible that his visit to Williams was a private one. Williams is looking for drivers for next year and now is the right time for such discussions to be taking place. The fact that Raikkonen was not the only unusual face spotted at Grove underlines this. The other man to drop by was Adrian Sutil, the Force India driver.

There is no doubt that Williams is looking around to decide what to do. It could keep Rubens Barrichello, but the relationship has not been an easy one and it has not been successful on the track. Pastor Maldonado will stay, if only because he brings a large sum of cash with him from PDVSA. That deal may be somewhat dependent on the future of the country’s president Hugo Chaves, but it is solid – and Williams needs solid money for the future.

Sutil is quick, but he is not famous for his technical abilities (nor is Maldonado come to that), but he has the added bonus of coming with money from Medion computers. This was bought recently by the Chinese firm Lenovo, but the restructuring since then seems to suggest a bigger involvement in the sport, rather than a reduction. Lenovo recently took on Gianfranco Lanci, a former CEO of Acer, as a consultant to help develop its consumer PC business. Lanci is from Turin and rose through the ranks of Texas Instruments and was appointed MD of Acer Italy when TI and Acer did a deal in 1997. He became president of Acer Europe three years later and soon afterwards agreed a deal to name Prost Grand Prix’s Ferrari engines Acers. After Prost closed Acer became a Ferrari partner. Lanci moved up to run the entire business, but left the company recently. His focus will be Lenovo’s integration of Medion.

A motivated Kimi would be a powerful weapon for Williams, which has struggled in the doldrums this year and is last of the established F1 teams. But Kimi is not going to be bringing cash and so it would have to be seen as a risk to try to attract other sponsors. The team is in the process of rebuilding. It has hired a new technical team and while there is a certain amount of doubt about the appointment of Mike Coughlan as the man in charge, there is no doubt that Coughlan has designed some decent cars over the years. New aerodynamicist Jason Somerville is highly rated and Mark Gillan is a solid pair of hands when it comes to applying science to motor racing. The team has signed a deal with Renault and that means that next year Williams ought to be back in the hunt in the mid-grid and not in the current mess. What will turn the team back into a stronger force is good leadership. Success brings cash in F1 so the aim of the team should be to climb as high as possible in the Constructors’ Championship.

Kimi left F1 two years ago, wanting to do something else. He has done two seasons in the World Rally Championship and made a limited impression and then he popped up in NASCAR, although that seemed to be another false start. The signs are that he is thinking more about getting back into F1, if he can. He is only 31 but his lack of interest in his final year at Ferrari did not leave a good impression. It was felt that he had achieved his ambition and won a World Championship and did not seem particularly motivated to win another. Getting back into F1 was always going to be a challenge, as was seen when Renault F1 decided on Nick Heidfeld rather than Kimi. Whether Kimi is the right man to lead a Williams revival is an arguable point, but it might be a good move.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/09/ ... and-sutil/
The real story? I would rather call it the BS story :roll::
Columns/articles or whatever this piece of s*** is let me fume! :<>:

1) Renault prefered Nick over Kimi? Hahaha thanks for that laugh! Maybe this guy should remember that Kimi already decided to continue rallying with the IceOneRacing team when Kubi had his accident!

2) Kimi wasn´t motivated in 2009? Sorry but he drove his ass of with this red shitbox though he knew that Ferrari wants to get rid of him

3) NASCAR was another false start? Oh yes of course :<>:
Kimi Kimi gimme just a little smile :)

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by amoljoshi » 17 Sep 2011, 17:17

Claudie_Schnaudie wrote:
luieluv wrote:
The real story: Raikkonen, Williams and Sutil…

September 17, 2011 by joesaward

There has been lots of talk in recent days about a visit by Kimi Raikkonen to Williams F1 in Grove. There is no question that this took place, but it was not as recently as some stories seem to suggest, but rather in the gap between the Belgian and Italian Grands Prix. It is not credible that his visit to Williams was a private one. Williams is looking for drivers for next year and now is the right time for such discussions to be taking place. The fact that Raikkonen was not the only unusual face spotted at Grove underlines this. The other man to drop by was Adrian Sutil, the Force India driver.

There is no doubt that Williams is looking around to decide what to do. It could keep Rubens Barrichello, but the relationship has not been an easy one and it has not been successful on the track. Pastor Maldonado will stay, if only because he brings a large sum of cash with him from PDVSA. That deal may be somewhat dependent on the future of the country’s president Hugo Chaves, but it is solid – and Williams needs solid money for the future.

Sutil is quick, but he is not famous for his technical abilities (nor is Maldonado come to that), but he has the added bonus of coming with money from Medion computers. This was bought recently by the Chinese firm Lenovo, but the restructuring since then seems to suggest a bigger involvement in the sport, rather than a reduction. Lenovo recently took on Gianfranco Lanci, a former CEO of Acer, as a consultant to help develop its consumer PC business. Lanci is from Turin and rose through the ranks of Texas Instruments and was appointed MD of Acer Italy when TI and Acer did a deal in 1997. He became president of Acer Europe three years later and soon afterwards agreed a deal to name Prost Grand Prix’s Ferrari engines Acers. After Prost closed Acer became a Ferrari partner. Lanci moved up to run the entire business, but left the company recently. His focus will be Lenovo’s integration of Medion.

A motivated Kimi would be a powerful weapon for Williams, which has struggled in the doldrums this year and is last of the established F1 teams. But Kimi is not going to be bringing cash and so it would have to be seen as a risk to try to attract other sponsors. The team is in the process of rebuilding. It has hired a new technical team and while there is a certain amount of doubt about the appointment of Mike Coughlan as the man in charge, there is no doubt that Coughlan has designed some decent cars over the years. New aerodynamicist Jason Somerville is highly rated and Mark Gillan is a solid pair of hands when it comes to applying science to motor racing. The team has signed a deal with Renault and that means that next year Williams ought to be back in the hunt in the mid-grid and not in the current mess. What will turn the team back into a stronger force is good leadership. Success brings cash in F1 so the aim of the team should be to climb as high as possible in the Constructors’ Championship.

Kimi left F1 two years ago, wanting to do something else. He has done two seasons in the World Rally Championship and made a limited impression and then he popped up in NASCAR, although that seemed to be another false start. The signs are that he is thinking more about getting back into F1, if he can. He is only 31 but his lack of interest in his final year at Ferrari did not leave a good impression. It was felt that he had achieved his ambition and won a World Championship and did not seem particularly motivated to win another. Getting back into F1 was always going to be a challenge, as was seen when Renault F1 decided on Nick Heidfeld rather than Kimi. Whether Kimi is the right man to lead a Williams revival is an arguable point, but it might be a good move.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/09/ ... and-sutil/
The real story? I would rather call it the BS story :roll::
Columns/articles or whatever this piece of s*** is let me fume! :<>:

1) Renault prefered Nick over Kimi? Hahaha thanks for that laugh! Maybe this guy should remember that Kimi already decided to continue rallying with the IceOneRacing team when Kubi had his accident!

2) Kimi wasn´t motivated in 2009? Sorry but he drove his ass of with this red shitbox though he knew that Ferrari wants to get rid of him

3) NASCAR was another false start? Oh yes of course :<>:
We are used to all this... Cool down now.... :wave:

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by Kriss » 17 Sep 2011, 19:55

The real story: Raikkonen, Williams and Sutil…
same old same old :zz:

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Post by Suomileijona » 18 Sep 2011, 15:51

No F1 for Kimi!!!
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Post by Suomileijona » 21 Sep 2011, 09:32

iceman1 wrote:No F1 return for Kimi Raikkonen
http://www.f1zone.net/news/no-f1-return ... onen/9030/
I vouldn't beleive what IS writes. I'm waiting for Heikki Kulta's article on this and finally Kimi's announcement
... :)

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Re: The Kimi Rally Monster Cool Lounge

Post by sleenster » 21 Sep 2011, 17:11

Suomileijona wrote:
iceman1 wrote:No F1 return for Kimi Raikkonen
http://www.f1zone.net/news/no-f1-return ... onen/9030/
I vouldn't beleive what IS writes. I'm waiting for Heikki Kulta's article on this and finally Kimi's announcement
... :)
I think we're gonna be waiting for a looooooong time for Kimi to announce anything :lol:


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